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Old Wed Aug 10, 2011, 06:41pm
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And for a shot clock violation, exactly where does the violation occur? The location of the shooter, the rim, or the ball?
I seem to recall that there's a case indicating the inbounds spot is the endline. That said, it's too early for me to get out my books and look myself.
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Old Wed Aug 10, 2011, 07:52pm
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Thought I would throw this in: The shot-clock horn does not stop play unless recognized by an official’s whistle.

Say a player attempts a three point field goal from half court, and the shot clock horn sounds in mid flight. We wait to see if the ball hits the basket, or goes in. If it doesn't, does it make sense to give the ball to the other team at half court?

So I say this situation should be handled with a throw in on the baseline. As the violation occurred when the ball did not hit the basket, or go in. Therefore nearest the spot would be the baseline.
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Old Wed Aug 10, 2011, 08:59pm
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Thought I would throw this in: The shot-clock horn does not stop play unless recognized by an official’s whistle.

Say a player attempts a three point field goal from half court, and the shot clock horn sounds in mid flight. We wait to see if the ball hits the basket, or goes in. If it doesn't, does it make sense to give the ball to the other team at half court?

So I say this situation should be handled with a throw in on the baseline. As the violation occurred when the ball did not hit the basket, or go in. Therefore nearest the spot would be the baseline.
I believe esteemed members disagree.
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Old Wed Aug 10, 2011, 09:02pm
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I believe esteemed members disagree.
How? I thought about it so hard! Obviously not hard enough. He$# it sounded alright to me. Oh by the way, who is considered esteemed? I have always wanted to ask

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Old Wed Aug 10, 2011, 09:31pm
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How? I thought about it so hard! Obviously not hard enough.
Think about this question: Where is the ball located when the violation occurs?
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Old Wed Aug 10, 2011, 09:40pm
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Think about this question: Where is the ball located when the violation occurs?
Physically at the basket, technically at the location of the shooter?
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Old Thu Aug 11, 2011, 09:56am
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Anybody have a case play? I'm more confused now than when I originally asked the question
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Old Thu Aug 11, 2011, 10:02am
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Think about this question: Where is the ball located when the violation occurs?
Does that matter? (I think the throw in is at the spot of the violation, not the ball location at the time of the violation, but I don't have my books here.)

The violation is not for "failing to release a shot" but for "the ball not hitting the ring". So, the spot of the violation is the ring.
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Old Thu Aug 11, 2011, 12:17pm
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Does that matter? (I think the throw in is at the spot of the violation, not the ball location at the time of the violation, but I don't have my books here.)

The violation is not for "failing to release a shot" but for "the ball not hitting the ring". So, the spot of the violation is the ring.
I'm not sure that is correct.

What if the defense had deflected the ball into the backcourt such that the ball was in the backcourt paint. It doesn't seem correct that you'd make the throwin spot 75' from the location of the ball.

The violation is for failing to release the shot such that it subsequently hits the rim.

I think the logical place for the violation is the location of the ball....not the rim.

Note, this is a logical POV, I've not investigated the actual rule yet.
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Old Thu Aug 11, 2011, 05:42pm
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Thought I would throw this in: The shot-clock horn does not stop play unless recognized by an official’s whistle.

Say a player attempts a three point field goal from half court, and the shot clock horn sounds in mid flight. We wait to see if the ball hits the basket, or goes in. If it doesn't, does it make sense to give the ball to the other team at half court?

So I say this situation should be handled with a throw in on the baseline. As the violation occurred when the ball did not hit the basket, or go in. Therefore nearest the spot would be the baseline.
So was my rational thinking somewhat correct?? I don't know what to think now either.
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