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Old Wed Aug 03, 2011, 10:31am
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I tried to tell you not to mess with team control. But did anybody listen? Noooooooooooo.
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Old Wed Aug 03, 2011, 11:04am
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I tried to tell you not to mess with team control. But did anybody listen? Noooooooooooo.
You dont support identical penalties for offensive fouls whether the ball is in or out of bounds?
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Old Wed Aug 03, 2011, 12:48pm
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You dont support identical penalties for offensive fouls whether the ball is in or out of bounds?
That's not what he said. There are other ways of achieving that result than by changing the definition of Team Control.
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Old Wed Aug 03, 2011, 02:57pm
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It would seem that 9-9-1 is the only real issue. I can't think of an example that would violate the change in articles 2 & 3.
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Old Wed Aug 03, 2011, 06:43pm
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It would seem that 9-9-1 is the only real issue. I can't think of an example that would violate the change in articles 2 & 3.
A1 has the ball in his frontcourt. He throws a pass towards A2 which is deflected away by B1. The ball enters the backcourt. A2 and B1 race for it. A2 bats the ball. The ball returns to the frontcourt and strikes the leg of an official. The ball now rebounds to the backcourt where A1 picks it up.

Old Rule: Backcourt violation under article 2 as Team A had team control the entire time.

New Rule: Likely not a violation. There was both player and team control in the frontcourt, but then Team B caused the ball to enter the backcourt. Team A now caused the ball to re-enter the frontcourt where it did not touch a player and player control was not re-established there. The ball subsequently returned to the backcourt and was first touched by Team A.
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Old Wed Aug 03, 2011, 07:23pm
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A1 has the ball in his frontcourt. He throws a pass towards A2 which is deflected away by B1. The ball enters the backcourt. A2 and B1 race for it. A2 bats the ball. The ball returns to the frontcourt and strikes the leg of an official. The ball now rebounds to the backcourt where A1 picks it up.

Old Rule: Backcourt violation under article 2 as Team A had team control the entire time.

New Rule: Likely not a violation. There was both player and team control in the frontcourt, but then Team B caused the ball to enter the backcourt. Team A now caused the ball to re-enter the frontcourt where it did not touch a player and player control was not re-established there. The ball subsequently returned to the backcourt and was first touched by Team A.
9-9-2 says "While in player and team control in its backcourt,... There's no player control in the BC in your play.
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Old Thu Aug 04, 2011, 04:35pm
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9-9-2 says "While in player and team control in its backcourt,... There's no player control in the BC in your play.
True. So you agree that I've contructed a play which would have been a violation under the old rule, but is not under the new wording?
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