Travel or Jump Ball?

[MelbRef]

What do you call?

A1 drives to basket, begins to gather ball, but defender puts hand on the ball (pins it) which causes A1 to take extra steps.

[VaTerp]

Have to see this type of play but as you said it's either a held ball or a travel. If the offensive player takes the extra steps in attempt to retain possession I likely go with the travel, otherwise it's to the arrow.

[bob jenkins]

Held ball.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by MelbRef

What do you call?

A1 drives to basket, begins to gather ball, but defender puts hand on the ball (pins it) which causes A1 to take extra steps.

Easy held ball call; by definition the shot has begun and he's prevented from releasing it.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Easy held ball call; by definition the shot has begun and he's prevented from releasing it.

Not so fast, sir! Is A1 an airborne player?

(Hint: Check the definition of held ball.)

[ontheway]

is a defenders hand pinning the ball equivalent to equal possesion?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Not so fast, sir! Is A1 an airborne player?

(Hint: Check the definition of held ball.)

Yeah, I realized that after I posted it, just forgot to come back and address it.

[BillyMac]

(Apologies to Frank Sinatra.)

Originally Posted by MelbRef

A1 drives to basket, begins to gather ball, but defender puts hand on the ball (pins it) which causes A1 to take extra steps.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Held ball.

A few other held ball, or travel, situations from the files of the Mythbusters:

When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a held ball. If, in this situation, the shooter loses control of the ball because of the block, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues. If, in this situation, the defender simply touches the ball, and the airborne shooter returns to the floor holding the ball, it’s a traveling violation. When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

(Apologies to Frank Sinatra.)





A few other held ball, or travel, situations from the files of the Mythbusters:

When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a held ball. If, in this situation, the shooter loses control of the ball because of the block, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues. If, in this situation, the defender simply touches the ball, and the airborne shooter returns to the floor holding the ball, it’s a traveling violation. When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor.

I would disagree with this. Even if the player just "touches" the ball as you state, if it somehow prevents him from releasing it and he comes back to the floor without ever bobbling it or losing secure possession of the basketball that is a jump ball.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I would disagree with this. Even if the player just "touches" the ball as you state, if it somehow prevents him from releasing it and he comes back to the floor without ever bobbling it or losing secure possession of the basketball that is a jump ball.

I think you misunderstood Billy's poing (which is hilariously ironic). He's stating that if the defender simply touches the ball and that touch does not prevent the release of the shot, it's a travel.

Real world: not likely to happen that way, as most of us will deem any touch to have prevented the release. OTOH, it's possible to have a travel even if the ball is touched by the defender on this play.