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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 10:56am
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Would you call this fully accurate...? (If not, why not?)

If the ball-holder picks up and sets down his pivot foot, it's a travel.

If the ball-holder picks up and sets down his pivot foot while a defender has his hand on the ball, it's a held ball.
1) Yes.

2) On a rules test? No. In a game? 95% of the time Yes.
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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 12:30pm
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2) On a rules test? No. In a game? 95% of the time Yes.
Right, didn't mean the rules test. Here, my mind was on the "trigger."

When a pivot foot comes up and goes back down, that's a trigger in my mind. That's a travel. However, if the trigger occurs when the defense is pinning the ball, then it's a held ball. That's where I was going.

You mentioned 95% of the time, Bob. What would be a minority case where this wouldn't be a held ball?
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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 01:25pm
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Right, didn't mean the rules test. Here, my mind was on the "trigger."

When a pivot foot comes up and goes back down, that's a trigger in my mind. That's a travel. However, if the trigger occurs when the defense is pinning the ball, then it's a held ball. That's where I was going.

You mentioned 95% of the time, Bob. What would be a minority case where this wouldn't be a held ball?
Well, if you thought A1 could release the ball anyway, or if the pivot foot was up, and 95% down and then B1 touches the ball just as the foot hits, or it's a blowout game, A1 is winning big and the arrow favors A.
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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 01:35pm
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So time & score does matter in managing a ballgame correctly?
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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 01:46pm
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So time & score does matter in managing a ballgame correctly?
The last part was mostly tongue in cheek.
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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 01:39pm
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I revised my post please check above. I actually cited the NCAA rule and everything!!! haha The rule sounds to me like if player puts their hand on the ball and the player does not lose possession that it is a jump ball situation.
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