Running the Baseline

[Viking32]

B1 scores a FG. B2 intentionally kicks the ball after A1 releases it on the inbound pass. Does A retain the right to run the baseline?

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Viking32
B1 scores a FG. B2 intentionally kicks the ball after A1 releases it on the inbound pass. Does A retain the right to run the baseline?

If the ball is to be put back at the baseline and no possession was gained before the kick.

Peace

[MN 3 Sport Ref]

Originally posted by JRutledge

If the ball is to be put back at the baseline and no possession was gained before the kick.

Peace

Agree. Too bad I have no rule book today to look it up (damn early work meetings)

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by MN 3 Sport Ref


Agree. Too bad I have no rule book today to look it up (damn early work meetings)

You really do not need it, that is what we are here for. They changed this rule a year ago to reflect the NCAA Rule.

Peace

[PAULK1]

7-5-7

[Viking32]

So, when does that rule end? Doesn't it end when the ball is released on the throw-in?

I thought the rule covered violations/fouls committed by B PRIOR to the ball being in-bounded. I don't have my rule books here either, but if someone can quote the rule as to when it ends, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

[DownTownTonyBrown]

7-5-7
A portion of this article says:

... the throw-in from... any point outside the end line. A team retains this privilege if the scoring team commits a violation or foul (before the bonus is in effect) on the ensuing throw-in if the resulting throw-in spot would be on the endline.

And there you are...

[Viking32]

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
7-5-7
A portion of this article says:

... the throw-in from... any point outside the end line. A team retains this privilege if the scoring team commits a violation or foul (before the bonus is in effect) on the ensuing throw-in if the resulting throw-in spot would be on the endline.

And there you are...

OK

So if the ball is kicked AFTER the ball is released on a throw-in, the throw in has ended and therefore this rule is not enforced....correct?

[rockyroad]

Not correct...the throw in does not end until the ball is legally touched on the court...since kicking the ball is not legal touching, your throw-in never ended and they still get to run the baseline...

[Sven]

Originally posted by Viking32

OK

So if the ball is kicked AFTER the ball is released on a throw-in, the throw in has ended and therefore this rule is not enforced....correct?

The Case Book covers this situation specifically.

7.5.7 Situation B: Team A scores a field goal. B1 pickes up the ball after the made basket, then proceeds out of bounds to start the throw-in process. B1 runs along the end line out of bounds while attempting to find an open teammate for the throw-in. Immediately after B1 releases the throw-in pass, (my emphasis) the ball is kicked by A2...near the end line...

Ruling: A2 has violated by kicking the ball...Team B will be awarded a throw-in and retain the right to run the end line on the ensuing throw-in.

Sven

[Viking32]

Originally posted by Sven


The Case Book covers this situation specifically.

7.5.7 Situation B: Team A scores a field goal. B1 pickes up the ball after the made basket, then proceeds out of bounds to start the throw-in process. B1 runs along the end line out of bounds while attempting to find an open teammate for the throw-in. Immediately after B1 releases the throw-in pass, (my emphasis) the ball is kicked by A2...near the end line...

Ruling: A2 has violated by kicking the ball...Team B will be awarded a throw-in and retain the right to run the end line on the ensuing throw-in.

Sven [/B]

Thanks. That should put an end to this one.

[DownTownTonyBrown]

Exactly! The point of the rule was not to penalize the throw-in team for the defense's actions - if the defense does something wrong (violates or fouls), the offense should not be penalized by removing the ability to run the end line.