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Old Wed May 04, 2011, 02:19pm
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Actually, TC already exists once the shooter has the ball, so the only point where it would matter is if you called a foul during an RPP situation with the ball at the disposal. As Nevada worded the post, once you start your 5 second count on a TI, TC begins. Could be an RPP situation, or could be a purposeful delay following a made basket.

I'm not so concerned about the 10 second or 3 second counts, although they would change. I'm more concerned about the following plays.

TI pass tipped by the offense in the FC into the BC where it's retrieved.

TI pass bounces in the FC before being retrieved by the offense in the BC.

Unless I'm missing something, these two situations would be a violation if TC is already established on the TI.
Since this 'new' rule would be the same as NCAA. Is there a case play in the NCAA book?
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Old Wed May 04, 2011, 02:23pm
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Since this 'new' rule would be the same as NCAA. Is there a case play in the NCAA book?
The NCAA has throw-in exceptions for BC violations.

Rule 7 Section 6. Throw-in

Art. 7. When the ball is located out of bounds, the thrower-in may pass the ball into the back court.

Art. 8. Regardless of where the throw-in spot is located, the throw-in team may cause the ball to go into the back court.

Art. 9. After the throw-in ends, an inbounds player in the front court who is not in control of the ball may cause the ball to go into the back court.
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Old Wed May 04, 2011, 02:26pm
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The NCAA has throw-in exceptions for BC violations.
So are the 2 plays, that Snaqwells has listed, violations?
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Old Wed May 04, 2011, 02:29pm
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So are the 2 plays, that Snaqwells has listed, violations?
Rule 7, Section 6 Throw-In

Art. 8. Regardless of where the throw-in spot is located, the throw-in team may cause the ball to go into the back court.
Art. 9. After the throw-in ends, an inbounds player in the front court who is not in control of the ball may cause the ball to go into the back court.
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Old Wed May 04, 2011, 03:00pm
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So are the 2 plays, that Snaqwells has listed, violations?
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Rule 7, Section 6 Throw-In

Art. 8. Regardless of where the throw-in spot is located, the throw-in team may cause the ball to go into the back court.
Art. 9. After the throw-in ends, an inbounds player in the front court who is not in control of the ball may cause the ball to go into the back court.
But without the expressed exceptions, they would be.
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Old Wed May 04, 2011, 03:05pm
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But without the expressed exceptions, they would be.
I'm going to assume they will change the throw-in rule to mimic the NCAA. Of course we already know I would like some new case plays to come with it.
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Old Wed May 04, 2011, 06:28pm
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The NCAA rule (and presumably the new NFHS rule) effectively only considers there to be team control for the purposes of determining the penalty for fouls that occur during the throw in. Complete "team control" effectively begins in the historic manner....along with player control. No other element normally implied by team control applies until player control is established inbounds.
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