Thoughts on Technical Foul

[tref]

I respect that, coach! My apologies!

Just curious, with the game situation (time & score) being what it was, why say anything at all?

Also, if you dont think it looks bad for a coach (while he's upset) to have a quick face to face with an official, then walk away, thats on you.

And, "bad officiating" is a commentators term. Nobody "in the game" talks like that.

[Big2Cat]

Originally Posted by tref

I respect that, coach! My apologies!

Just curious, with the game situation (time & score) being what it was, why say anything at all?

Also, if you dont think it looks bad for a coach (while he's upset) to have a quick face to face with an official, then walk away, thats on you.

And, "bad officiating" is a commentators term. Nobody "in the game" talks like that.

Yeah, it was a bad comment. I was probably talking as an official at that moment and deserved the T.

Also, I do ultimately agree I should be held to a higher standard.

She really did go down pretty hard and wasn't moving. I truly was worried for her which is why I yelled timeout. Her dad came and thanked me after the game.

Anyhow, thanks again. I should have handled it better. I appreciate the people who point out I could have handled it better rather than attacking me. We need to keep each other on course at times and I veered off.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

Yeah, it was a bad comment. I was probably talking as an official at that moment and deserved the T.

Also, I do ultimately agree I should be held to a higher standard.

She really did go down pretty hard and wasn't moving. I truly was worried for her which is why I yelled timeout. Her dad came and thanked me after the game.

Anyhow, thanks again. I should have handled it better. I appreciate the people who point out I could have handled it better rather than attacking me. We need to keep each other on course at times and I veered off.

It surprises me that after 22 years of service, you didn't know we are held to a higher standard both on & off the court. Whether we are working, playing, coaching or spectating.

Its girls basketball, thats what they do!! They fall down & hurt themselves... After 15 years of service on that side, it surprises me that you dont know this either.

Perhaps I attacked you, perhaps I just pointed out the facts & you didnt like it. You STILL fail to answer any questions...
up 7 with 30 seconds left, with the ball. WHY?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

It surprises me that after 22 years of service, you didn't know we are held to a higher standard both on & off the court. Whether we are working, playing, coaching or spectating.

Its girls basketball, thats what they do!! They fall down & hurt themselves... After 15 years of service on that side, it surprises me that you dont know this either.

Perhaps I attacked you, perhaps I just pointed out the facts & you didnt like it. You STILL fail to answer any questions...
up 7 with 30 seconds left, with the ball. WHY?

Actually, I can understand the instinct to ask if you can save your TO. At 30 seconds, it's just now getting to the point where you could put in your subs. It's not like it's a 20 point lead.

He knows the standard is higher, he just got a bit snippy. God knows I've done that.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Actually, I can understand the instinct to ask if you can save your TO. At 30 seconds, it's just now getting to the point where you could put in your subs. It's not like it's a 20 point lead.

I can too, but when he did not receive the answer he was looking for, which is also the correct answer, why drop Billy Packers line & set up the potential 5 or 6 point swing?

Gotta love & respect the coach that picks the wise battles.

[Big2Cat]

Originally Posted by tref

I can too, but when he did not receive the answer he was looking for, which is also the correct answer, why drop Billy Packers line & set up the potential 5 or 6 point swing?

Gotta love & respect the coach that picks the wise battles.

Okay, okay. I already admitted it was stupid!

[tref]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

Okay, okay. I already admitted it was stupid!

Truce!

*Homeland Official levels have been downgraded to green*

[Big2Cat]

Originally Posted by tref

It surprises me that after 22 years of service, you didn't know we are held to a higher standard both on & off the court. Whether we are working, playing, coaching or spectating.

Its girls basketball, thats what they do!! They fall down & hurt themselves... After 15 years of service on that side, it surprises me that you dont know this either.

Perhaps I attacked you, perhaps I just pointed out the facts & you didnt like it. You STILL fail to answer any questions...
up 7 with 30 seconds left, with the ball. WHY?

I know it is a higher standard. I do not allow any of my girls to make calls on the court or from the bench, and win or lose they find every official after every game and say thank you.

It was stupid. I was more upset that after I helped the other coach's player he was the one who demanded I be charged with a timeout. And he was the coach on the officials all game.

Yeah, I got snippy. Sorry. I come in here and read all the time and respect what I read in here. The only thing missing is a Mark Padgett witty retort.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

I know it is a higher standard. I do not allow any of my girls to make calls on the court or from the bench, and win or lose they find every official after every game and say thank you.

It was stupid. I was more upset that after I helped the other coach's player he was the one who demanded I be charged with a timeout. And he was the coach on the officials all game.

Yeah, I got snippy. Sorry. I come in here and read all the time and respect what I read in here. The only thing missing is a Mark Padgett witty retort.

You're not missing much. Sounds like your issue is more with the coach for pressing this. Can't say I blame you. Of course, from the sounds of it, he would have been sitting down by this point in my game.

For some reason, I hate the post game thank-yous from players. I've learned to accept it in games where I can't get off the court quickly (ms, rec, AAU, "Gold Crown"), but in a hs game, I'm off the court before the players have a chance to look for me.

[Big2Cat]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You're not missing much.

For some reason, I hate the post game thank-yous from players. I've learned to accept it in games where I can't get off the court quickly (ms, rec, AAU, "Gold Crown"), but in a hs game, I'm off the court before the players have a chance to look for me.

Our officials always stay and do a B game afterwards. Many of our officials come and finish dressing in the gym, so they are changing shoes and putting on coats after the 2nd game. I want my girls to have a healthy respect for officials for when they move on up to high school and I also explained my T was unacceptable. Bad example, bad form on my part.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

Our officials always stay and do a B game afterwards. Many of our officials come and finish dressing in the gym, so they are changing shoes and putting on coats after the 2nd game. I want my girls to have a healthy respect for officials for when they move on up to high school and I also explained my T was unacceptable. Bad example, bad form on my part.

One of the main reasons I don't like MS games. Even if they're working two games, they should have a room to retreat to. While it may prevent your girls from being able to shake their hands, it also prevents knucklehead parents from taking a chance to speak their minds.

If you want, they can thank the officials before the game.

Just my $.02.

[BillyMac]

Little kid's game. During clock stopped, dead ball, little kid says, "Time out. Time out. I need to tie my shoe". You going to charge a time out? Same thing in high school subvarsity game? Varsity game?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Little kid's game. During clock stopped, dead ball, little kid says, "Time out. Time out. I need to tie my shoe". You going to charge a time out? Same thing in high school subvarsity game? Varsity game?

Nope. I'm going to report two timeouts. And if there's an excessive timeout, that's a T.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Little kid's game. During clock stopped, dead ball, little kid says, "Time out. Time out. I need to tie my shoe". You going to charge a time out? Same thing in high school subvarsity game? Varsity game?

In all likelihood, I wouldn't charge timeout in either case as I would be withholding making the ball live until the shoelace was tied. I know for sure I wouldn't charge one in little kids ball.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Little kid's game. During clock stopped, dead ball, little kid says, "Time out. Time out. I need to tie my shoe".

Funny you ask this one.

Just after a throw-in, an MS coach says to me, "There's a shoe untied. Stop."

I let play continue. When I inform the coach that I'm not going to stop the game for an untied shoe, he replies, "they have before!"

This team from a different part of the state with a different association (albeit under the same umbrella). Different belief systems at different levels, particularly that level, I guess.