Thoughts on Technical Foul

[Big2Cat]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Sorry coach, but this is news to you? Of course you are.

So, what you are basically saying is that you will give another coach more leeway and hit me harder because I also officiate.

Therefore, you have no decided to give the other coach and advantage and already taken away your role as impartial official who is there to keep things fair.

Well done. And if you never know I also officiate, now what?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

So, what you are basically saying is that you will give another coach more leeway and hit me harder because I also officiate.

Therefore, you have no decided to give the other coach and advantage and already taken away your role as impartial official who is there to keep things fair.

Well done. And if you never know I also officiate, now what?

I don't believe he meant in-game that he would hold an official to a higher standard. Rather, when we have stories here about officials in a coaching role, we expect better of them because you know what it's like to be on the other end of the stick. If you want to see an example of that, search for a thread that poster Judtech started where he went off on the officials and the whole forum went off on him.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I don't believe he meant in-game that he would hold an official to a higher standard. Rather, when we have stories here about officials in a coaching rule, we expect better of them because you know what it's like to be on the other end of the stick. If you want to see an example of that, search for a thread that poster Judtech started where he went off on the officials and the whole forum went off on him.

There was one exception.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

So, what you are basically saying is that you will give another coach more leeway and hit me harder because I also officiate.

Never said that, you are inferring quite a bit. I already explained my comment. But if you are making it a point to tell me you are an official, my leash is already getting shorter on what I'm allowing you to get away with.

Therefore, you have no decided to give the other coach and advantage and already taken away your role as impartial official who is there to keep things fair.

Well done.

With the way you are willing to address fellow officials, I'm not surprised you got stuck. Too bad he didn't toss you too.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Never said that, you are inferring quite a bit. I already explained my comment. But if you are making it a point to tell me you are an official, my leash is already getting shorter on what I'm allowing you to get away with.

With the way you are willing to address fellow officials, I'm not surprised you got stuck. Too bad he didn't toss you too.

+1 on everything.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

So, what you are basically saying is that you will give another coach more leeway and hit me harder because I also officiate.

Therefore, you have no decided to give the other coach and advantage and already taken away your role as impartial official who is there to keep things fair.

Well done. And if you never know I also officiate, now what?

Let me ask you, coach. Are you a registered official with your state? Are you in an association? Does your state or association have guidelines on how to behave when watching a game; particularly how you treat the officials on the court?

The fact is, you are held to a higher standard. Because:
1. Everyone in the gym that matters knows you're an official, and comments like that show the current officials up; intentionally or not.
2. The official knows you are an official, and comments like that are a personal attack due to your status.

Did tref overreact? Maybe, but we've all had the "ireftoo" coach who tries to tell us how to officiate his game.

There's a varsity ref in my association who also coaches Freshman girls. When you work his games, you wouldn't know he's an official except in how he phrases his questions. "What did you see on that? What was the call?" I've never had him argue a call.

In your situation, he would have simply turned around and walked back to his bench, ate his timeout, and probably said something to the assigner after the game.

[Big2Cat]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

In your situation, he would have simply turned around and walked back to his bench, ate his timeout, and probably said something to the assigner after the game.

You are correct. I should have not said anything. This was an 8th grade where ADs get their own officials.

I shouldn't have baited you guys with the show me the rule stuff. I truly agree with the higher standards part.

Sorry I got everyone off track.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

You are correct. I should have not said anything. This was an 8th grade where ADs get their own officials.

I shouldn't have baited you guys with the show me the rule stuff. I truly agree with the higher standards part.

Sorry I got everyone off track.

No worries. Around here, even 8th grade is assigned by an assigner. A different assigner than the high school stuff, but still an assigner (who happens to be a varsity official also).

In your situation, I would let it go. Sounds like you have a career MS ref working the game; not much to be gained really. You said he was older, but he still may be "new" at officiating.