Thoughts on Technical Foul

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Big2Cat

The opposing coach then asks (and I am stunned by this) if I am going to be charged for a timeout.

Just my two cents, but this might be the first domino.

Had the opposing coach not questioned it (and I certainly don't blame you for being stunned), perhaps you may have not been charged, as the official would just let it go. (Most of us would.) However, since the opposing coach indeed did question it, and you did call the time-out, perhaps the official thought, "he's got me there."

As for the technical foul, I'm with Juggling. I'd only T it up for an ABS, though I can see why others would. It could come down to a choice of words. Next time, go with "I don't agree with that at all." I can't think of a time where that alone would be t-worthy.

[tref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Next time, go with "I don't agree with that at all." I can't think of a time where that alone would be t-worthy.

No disrespect to you, but how about next time he just STFU. I mean, seeing how his girls team is up by 7 with less than 30 seconds to play & 1 or 2 TOs remaining, with the ball in his f/c and all.
Oh did I mention that he belonged to our frat?

[APG]

While I agree with your sentiment tref, I believe you've taken this comment and gone DEFCON 1 with it.

[tref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

While I agree with your sentiment tref, I believe you've taken this comment and gone DEFCON 1 with it.

Perhaps, I've just seen too many of his kind lately & its a bit much, after working high level playoff games then hopping back on the wreck scene.

Coaches that ref too...
Players that ref too...
Mommas that ref too...
Daddys that ref too...
Little cousins whose uncles, yeah, ref too...

My point is, if you do ref too:

1. You are still held to a higher standard while coaching/playing.
2. You're not working THIS game, but there is an extra shirt & whistle in my bag, lets go 3!
3. Treat officials how you would like to be treated when you officiate.

[APG]

Oh I definitely agree, but I feel there's a huge difference between the statement in the OP, and say the actions of the forum poster (Judtech?) earlier who lambasted the officials and acted like the out of control coaches we talk about here. That's all I was really saying.

[Big2Cat]

A few things. I never pulled any type of "I am an official, too" on the guy. I also know it isn't my assignment. Also, I didn't show the official up. I told him face to face, in a close conversation where the only person that might have heard was the scorer that his decision was bad officiating. He didn't respond and I went to my huddle.

I then found out he gave me a T from my girls who were watching from the bench.

I don't show up officials. Once I got the T, I sat on the bench and didn't say a word. Although I didn't agree with his T, I respected his right to give me one and didn't argue a thing.

I think this whole "being in the fraternity" means we are perfect people and can't ever make mistakes ourselves. Plus, some of you also assumed it was a young guy. This was an older guy who does our games. In 15 years of coaching and 22 years of officiating, that is only the second T I have ever received, so please Nevada, don't make it seem like I am some Master Official trying to berate and intimidate other officials, or that I am disrespecting the fraternity. It isn't the case at all.

Had I yelled there was a player down, it would not have had the immediate effect of stopping play that yelling timeout would have. The officials had no clue and did I mention the girl was not moving?

I appreciate the feedback. I also told my girls I could have handled it better and my desire is to never, ever get a technical foul. Like I said, I didn't agree with it, but I got one. And I never, ever like to set that example for my girls.

Anyhow, bottom line is I think most of you agree it should have been an official's timeout and the T was in the 50/50 area.

Thanks, and sorry that I am not a perfect human being.

[WreckRef]

Poor game management by the official in my opinion.

As far as the T goes, you should know being an official, that every official has a different threshold when it comes to issuing a T. For example, some might not T for someone saying, "That call was horrible," but would for someone saying, "You are horrible."

As far as the timeout goes I don't see it any different than the situation I had a couple of weeks ago. A1 grabs a defensive rebound and starts bringing the ball up the floor. Coach A calls timeout. As I walk towards the table to report I notice A2 hobbling over to the bench. I ask the coach, "Do you want the timeout or just the sub for your injured player?" Coach says, "Just the sub." I hit the whistle, announce it's an official timeout, tell all of the players to come back on the floor and tell the table to not charge A with a timeout.

Final thought, now you know that you can't ask for a timeout with that official to replace an injured player he didn't see. Next time I would suggest getting the officials attention by saying something like, "Ref, there's an injured player," and point to him/her.