It's that time again - FED rule change discussion

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by welpe

on the topic of free throws, allow players to enter the lane on the release.

+1

[JugglingReferee]

I'm in for entering on the release, and having just 5 in the lane.

[bob jenkins]

When a held ball occurs near the end (TBD, but perhaps within the last 2 seconds) of the first three quarters, give the team with the arrow the option of inbounding the ball, or declaring the quarter over and starting the next quarter with the AP throw-in.

As it stands now, most held balls near the end of the quarter just mean "losing the arrow"

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

When a held ball occurs near the end (TBD, but perhaps within the last 2 seconds) of the first three quarters, give the team with the arrow the option of inbounding the ball, or declaring the quarter over and starting the next quarter with the AP throw-in.

As it stands now, most held balls near the end of the quarter just mean "losing the arrow"

No way. Then you are depriving the defense a chance to steal the ball and convert or get fouled.

[coach-rec]

I don't understand the comment about players being the only ones to call timeouts

and I never understood changing the rule on the free throws to begin with. It seems to have had an effect of losing the art of boxing out to some extent because they rarely have to hold the box out for an extended period of time.

[APG]

Originally Posted by coach-rec

I don't understand the comment about players being the only ones to call timeouts

and I never understood changing the rule on the free throws to begin with. It seems to have had an effect of losing the art of boxing out to some extent because they rarely have to hold the box out for an extended period of time.

To your first point, there are certain situations where it's difficult to ascertain whether a timeout should be granted when it's the head coach requesting the timeout. For some, eliminating the right for the head coach to request a timeout would solve this problem since players would be forced to ask.

To your second point, I believe the rule change was made in an effort to decrease the amount of physical play during such action.

[coach-rec]

I can see that point on the timeouts. Thanks

and I just don't agree on the physical play with the freethrows. I view that aspect of the game a bit of a lost art and there's no real place to revive it as a result of that change.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

When a held ball occurs near the end (TBD, but perhaps within the last 2 seconds) of the first three quarters, give the team with the arrow the option of inbounding the ball, or declaring the quarter over and starting the next quarter with the AP throw-in.

As it stands now, most held balls near the end of the quarter just mean "losing the arrow"

I like it.

Let's take it a step further, though. Should we start the quarter with 8:02 or 8:01 on the clock? (Nearly all clocks have this setting capability now.)

[whistleone]

Not necessarily a rule change but what are your thoughts on giving the Trail official responsibility on free throws (either players along the lane or flight of the ball)? The Center official has to watch the free throw shooter, three players along the lane and the flight of the ball.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by whistleone

The Center official has to watch the free throw shooter, three players along the lane and the flight of the ball.

Are you saying that's the current mechanic? In which system?

[bainsey]

Require scorekeeper to signal when a team has committed its sixth team foul of the half.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

To your second point, I believe the rule change was made in an effort to decrease the amount of physical play during such action.

I admit, my desire to want to change this rule is a bit selfish as it would bring consistency to how it is called in my area. It seems to me that at the varsity level around here, there is a wide latitude given to players entering the lane and for all intents and purposes, they are already being allowed to enter on the release.

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

Only players can request a time out.

Love this one but there is no getting that genie back in the bottle.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I admit, my desire to want to change this rule is a bit selfish as it would bring consistency to how it is called in my area. It seems to me that at the varsity level around here, there is a wide latitude given to players entering the lane and for all intents and purposes, they are already being allowed to enter on the release.

Really? Wow. Not the case here. If it's too close to tell, we'll let it go, but no way they're going in on the release.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Love this one but there is no getting that genie back in the bottle.

Probably not, since coaches dominate the rules committee, and they probably won't willingly give up that power.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I like it.

Let's take it a step further, though. Should we start the quarter with 8:02 or 8:01 on the clock? (Nearly all clocks have this setting capability now.)

Good idea. Start it with a held ball, while you're at it.