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Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 12:26pm
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There are a few tournaments around these parts where 1 unsporting T earns an ejection from the game, any other unsporting technical fouls on the player or coach in subsequent games earns an ejection from the tournament. I like working those.
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Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 12:35pm
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(4) Players will be temporarily disqualified after 5 personal/technical fouls total. If all fouls are personal in ruling, the player will be eligible to return to action after setting out 50% of the time that was left on the clock at the time of their fifth aggregate foul.

If the five aggregate are reached in the first half of a game, the player in ineligible until the 9 minute mark of the second half. Succeeding fouls after that 9 minute re- entry will follow the “50% rule”. All Star Committee will keep track of foul out rule if a player fouls out of the game.
This basically means, as worded, that when they return and foul again, they must sit out another 50% of the time that was left on the clock at the time of their fifth aggregate foul..

And that will be until beyond the end of the 4th quarter....50% + 50% plus whatever time they were actually back in the game.

Of course, they may have intended to reset the 50% time to be 50% of time of the time remaining at current foul, but that is not what they said.
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Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 12:39pm
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There are a few tournaments around these parts where 1 unsporting T earns an ejection from the game, any other unsporting technical fouls on the player or coach in subsequent games earns an ejection from the tournament. I like working those.
That would go one of two ways.

1. The way it was intended.
2. Making officials reluctant to call that first T.
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Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 01:50pm
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This basically means, as worded, that when they return and foul again, they must sit out another 50% of the time that was left on the clock at the time of their fifth aggregate foul..

And that will be until beyond the end of the 4th quarter....50% + 50% plus whatever time they were actually back in the game.

Of course, they may have intended to reset the 50% time to be 50% of time of the time remaining at current foul, but that is not what they said.
That seems to be way too much to deal with...

A couple more rules from men's leagues here:

After 5th personal foul, any foul committed by that player is treated as an intentional foul. (This is only for teams that start with 4 or 5 players.)

3 unsporting technicals on a team in 1 game = forfeit.
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Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 02:35pm
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3 unsporting technicals on a team in 1 game = forfeit.
Now this one, I like.
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Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 05:09pm
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That would go one of two ways.

1. The way it was intended.
2. Making officials reluctant to call that first T.
I can tell you I am not reluctant to call assess the first T. I enforce sportsmanship like I would on any other night. Ususally after the first one, coaches and players figure it out.
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Old Tue Mar 22, 2011, 05:14pm
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I can tell you I am not reluctant to call assess the first T. I enforce sportsmanship like I would on any other night. Ususally after the first one, coaches and players figure it out.
I know you well enough to know this is true, and I wouldn't either. Some would due to the increased penalty, just like the elbow violation was never called.
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I know you well enough to know this is true, and I wouldn't either. Some would due to the increased penalty, just like the elbow violation was never called.
+1

How many of you called the excessive elbow swinging when it was T? Now how many of you have called it since it was changed to a violation?

I'm not saying it's wrong or right, I'm just saying that I'm guessing a lot more officials are inclined to call it since the penalty was changed.
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The same would happen if they make delay in returning to the court after a throw-in a violation instead of a T.
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The same would happen if they make delay in returning to the court after a throw-in a violation instead of a T.
I haven't seen either happen yet in my short career. I'd call either if I did.
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I haven't seen either happen yet in my short career. I'd call either if I did.
I've had it happen once in 12 years.

Middle school game, I'm the L on the end line. Kid inbounds the ball, pauses for 1 second then runs the entire length of the end line and enters the court at the 3 point line where he receives the ball. As soon as he touches I hit the whistle and call the T.

Coach was livid and I can only assume they drew the play up this way.

Coach refused to believe the penalty was a T and didn't want to let it go after the game.
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Old Wed Mar 23, 2011, 04:29am
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why not just follow what the Harlem Globetrotters are doing?

4-pt. shot & penalty box

Only difference I would do is make any foul a penalty, & base the time in the penalty box on the severity of the foul.

This way there can be basketball power plays & penalty kills.
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Yeah, because what basketball needs is for us to make it more similar to a sport nobody watches.
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Yeah, because what basketball needs is for us to make it more similar to a sport nobody watches.
Lacrosse?
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