Blown 10 second count

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Made basket? How could clock have been started properly, it should never have stopped??? If clock was running , it would be hard to exactly determine how much time was remaining.

A do over? And this was a varsity game? Unacceptable.

There was likely a timeout involved.

As for how they "fixed" it....anything they do is wrong. The "right" thing by the book is to enforce the 10 sec. violation. The wrong thing to do is to enforce the 10 sec. violation. The wrong thing to do is to have do-over. The wrong thing to do is to not enforce the 10 sec. violation. By blowing the whistle for the 10 count that was apparently too fast, there is no longer a "right" way out. It is going to be ugly.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

There was likely a timeout involved.

Even if there wasnt, we can always sneek a peek once the throw-in ends.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by tref

Even if there wasnt, we can always sneek a peek once the throw-in ends.

Yep -- or maybe the state uses NCAA timing rules and stops the clock in the last minute on made baskets.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yep -- or maybe the state uses NCAA timing rules and stops the clock in the last minute on made baskets.

Is that a state option available this year?

[Adam]

If they wanted an out, they should have simply given A the ball back and not put any time back on the clock. Ball back in play at POI. That would have been "less bad" than the complete "do-over" they did.

[SperlingPE]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

There was likely a timeout involved.

Team A inbounded following a timeout after the made basket. The clock was stopped when Team A inbounded. A bit of information that I failed to include.

This is a regular season game. This is not a state tournament game.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by SperlingPE

Team A inbounded following a timeout after the made basket. The clock was stopped when Team A inbounded. A bit of information that I failed to include.This is a regular season game. This is not a state tournament game.

Quite significant bit I'd say.

[Mechanicsman]

Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Mechanicsman

Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.

Which is something we should be aware of.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by Mechanicsman

Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.

That would be my contention if I were on the crew. Put it back in play at POI.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Mechanicsman

Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.

It was stated earlier in this thread that the clock was started properly.

[Kelvin green]

In the middle of the first quarter no one is watching the clock to see if your 10 second count is off. However having a 11.7 second backcourt rewards bad offense and does not reward good defense. 10 seconds should be 10 seconds.

At the end of a quarter everyone is watching the clock, we should know it too. If the clock shows 19, I sure as heck try and make sure that it is close. if the clock has tenths of second this is easier than if it does not but if the clock shows 12 and it was 19 I would not be blowing my whistle..

I watched a JV game the other day, there was 27.2 on the clock, clock started correctly. ball was touched in front court at 16.3... No whistle, the team that palyed good defense was screaming and what defense do we have? My count is slow coach so no matter how hard you play Defense I am not going to reward this....Glances and peeks will save a lot...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by SperlingPE

This happened in a boys varsity regular season game high school
19 seconds left in the game (4th quarter)
score is tied
team A inbounds ball after made basket (to tie the game)
team B pressures team A as they bring the ball up the floor
Trail official calls 10 second back court violation
Clock reads 12 seconds
Coach of team B points out the discrepancy to the officials
Officials agree that the ball was inbounded with 19 seconds on the clock and that the clock was started properly

What do you do as a crew?

Follow NFHS case book play 5.10.1SitB

[SperlingPE]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Follow NFHS case book play 5.10.1SitB

Excellent...I had not consulted the case book

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by SperlingPE

This happened in a boys varsity regular season game high school
19 seconds left in the game (4th quarter)
score is tied
team A inbounds ball after made basket (to tie the game)
team B pressures team A as they bring the ball up the floor
Trail official calls 10 second back court violation
Clock reads 12 seconds
Coach of team B points out the discrepancy to the officials
Officials agree that the ball was inbounded with 19 seconds on the clock and that the clock was started properly

What do you do as a crew?
I will post the crew's decision and I will post the state high school association's recommnedation (after the fact)

Assess the penalty for failing to cause the ball to gain FC status within 10 seconds.