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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 02:56pm
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There was likely a timeout involved.
Even if there wasnt, we can always sneek a peek once the throw-in ends.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 03:01pm
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Even if there wasnt, we can always sneek a peek once the throw-in ends.
Yep -- or maybe the state uses NCAA timing rules and stops the clock in the last minute on made baskets.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 03:03pm
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Yep -- or maybe the state uses NCAA timing rules and stops the clock in the last minute on made baskets.
Is that a state option available this year?
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 03:03pm
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This happened in a boys varsity regular season game high school
19 seconds left in the game (4th quarter)
score is tied
team A inbounds ball after made basket (to tie the game)
team B pressures team A as they bring the ball up the floor
Trail official calls 10 second back court violation
Clock reads 12 seconds
Coach of team B points out the discrepancy to the officials
Officials agree that the ball was inbounded with 19 seconds on the clock and that the clock was started properly

What do you do as a crew?
Follow NFHS case book play 5.10.1SitB
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 03:14pm
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If they wanted an out, they should have simply given A the ball back and not put any time back on the clock. Ball back in play at POI. That would have been "less bad" than the complete "do-over" they did.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 03:14pm
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Is that a state option available this year?
No, but neither is a shot clock, but some states still use it.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 03:37pm
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There was likely a timeout involved.
Team A inbounded following a timeout after the made basket. The clock was stopped when Team A inbounded. A bit of information that I failed to include.

This is a regular season game. This is not a state tournament game.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 03:38pm
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Follow NFHS case book play 5.10.1SitB
Excellent...I had not consulted the case book
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 03:46pm
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Team A inbounded following a timeout after the made basket. The clock was stopped when Team A inbounded. A bit of information that I failed to include.This is a regular season game. This is not a state tournament game.
Quite significant bit I'd say.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 04:03pm
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You aren't going to make that call if they are anywhere near the division line.....
Why not? If you don't, you are penalizing the defensive team for playing good defense.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 06:03pm
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Originally Posted by SperlingPE View Post
This happened in a boys varsity regular season game high school
19 seconds left in the game (4th quarter)
score is tied
team A inbounds ball after made basket (to tie the game)
team B pressures team A as they bring the ball up the floor
Trail official calls 10 second back court violation
Clock reads 12 seconds
Coach of team B points out the discrepancy to the officials
Officials agree that the ball was inbounded with 19 seconds on the clock and that the clock was started properly

What do you do as a crew?
I will post the crew's decision and I will post the state high school association's recommnedation (after the fact)
Assess the penalty for failing to cause the ball to gain FC status within 10 seconds.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 06:39pm
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Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 06:44pm
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Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.
Which is something we should be aware of.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 06:52pm
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Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.
That would be my contention if I were on the crew. Put it back in play at POI.
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Old Wed Feb 23, 2011, 07:31pm
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Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.
It was stated earlier in this thread that the clock was started properly.
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