Blown 10 second count

[SperlingPE]

This happened in a boys varsity regular season game high school
19 seconds left in the game (4th quarter)
score is tied
team A inbounds ball after made basket (to tie the game)
team B pressures team A as they bring the ball up the floor
Trail official calls 10 second back court violation
Clock reads 12 seconds
Coach of team B points out the discrepancy to the officials
Officials agree that the ball was inbounded with 19 seconds on the clock and that the clock was started properly

What do you do as a crew?
I will post the crew's decision and I will post the state high school association's recommnedation (after the fact)

[letemplay]

Easy one. Tell the school to get maintenance to check clock out when they get a chance..it's obviously way off!

[Adam]

Check the Trail official's elbow for any injuries.

[Terrapins Fan]

It is the officials count, not the clock. If they wanted 10 exactly, they would give us a stop watch before the game...

I have times my count several times. I come in at about 11.7 seconds consistently. I'd rather be a little slow, than too fast, but it a "count" just as 3 seconds is and 5 seconds is.

[SperlingPE]

I like the humor ...
So here is the outcome

The officials re-set clock to 19 seconds and gave the ball back to Team A to inbound again. Team A got across mid-court in time and scored. Team B had 3 seconds remaining when they got the ball back and failed to score. Team A wins (corrected to Team A)

State association offered this information to Team B (they called the state association to discuss the situation). The officials should have upheld the call and awarded the ball to Team B. Play continues with Team B inbounding the ball at the spot nearest the violation.

[SperlingPE]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

It is the officials count, not the clock. If they wanted 10 exactly, they would give us a stop watch before the game...

I have times my count several times. I come in at about 11.7 seconds consistently. I'd rather be a little slow, than too fast, but it a "count" just as 3 seconds is and 5 seconds is.

You nailed it.

[tref]

Originally Posted by SperlingPE

State association offered this information to Team B (they called the state association to discuss the situation). The officials should have upheld the call and awarded the ball to Team B. Play continues with Team B inbounding the ball at the spot nearest the violation.

Sounds about right to me, no do-overs.

[Texas Aggie]

With 19 seconds left in a close game, a 10 second call probably won't happen unless there is clearly 10 seconds run off the clock. You aren't going to make that call if they are anywhere near the division line, so you might have time to glance at the clock.

In my experience, 10 second calls call themselves. I've had complaints I didn't call them, but I can't recall one complaint on a 10 second call I made.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by SperlingPE

I like the humor ...
So here is the outcome

The officials re-set clock to 19 seconds and gave the ball back to Team A to inbound again. Team A got across mid-court in time and scored. Team B had 3 seconds remaining when they got the ball back and failed to score. Team B wins

I think you meant that Team A won the game, right???

As for what the crew did - you have got to be kidding me. They actually had a do-over of the whole thing? That's ridiculous.

[26 Year Gap]

I did notice that it was a regular season game. I suspect the crew's season is over as soon as the regular season concludes for the schools.

[SperlingPE]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I think you meant that Team A won the game, right???

As for what the crew did - you have got to be kidding me. They actually had a do-over of the whole thing? That's ridiculous.

Yes, Team A won......I will correct that if I can
This is how it went down.

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by SperlingPE

I like the humor ...
So here is the outcome

The officials re-set clock to 19 seconds and gave the ball back to Team A to inbound again. Team A got across mid-court in time and scored. Team B had 3 seconds remaining when they got the ball back and failed to score. Team B wins

State association offered this information to Team B (they called the state association to discuss the situation). The officials should have upheld the call and awarded the ball to Team B. Play continues with Team B inbounding the ball at the spot nearest the violation.

3 officials? Really? Not one of them doing a state playoff game understood the rule?

I am guessing none of them are members here or they would have....

[Treeguy]

Must have been the same crew that did the USA/USSR game in 1972.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by SperlingPE

This happened in a boys varsity regular season game high school
19 seconds left in the game (4th quarter)
score is tied
team A inbounds ball after made basket (to tie the game)team B pressures team A as they bring the ball up the floor
Trail official calls 10 second back court violation
Clock reads 12 seconds
Coach of team B points out the discrepancy to the officials
Officials agree that the ball was inbounded with 19 seconds on the clock and that the clock was started properly
What do you do as a crew?
I will post the crew's decision and I will post the state high school association's recommnedation (after the fact)

Made basket? How could clock have been started properly, it should never have stopped??? If clock was running , it would be hard to exactly determine how much time was remaining.

A do over? And this was a varsity game? Unacceptable.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Made basket? How could clock have been started properly, it should never have stopped??? If clock was running , it would be hard to exactly determine how much time was remaining.

A do over? And this was a varsity game? Unacceptable.

There was likely a timeout involved.

As for how they "fixed" it....anything they do is wrong. The "right" thing by the book is to enforce the 10 sec. violation. The wrong thing to do is to enforce the 10 sec. violation. The wrong thing to do is to have do-over. The wrong thing to do is to not enforce the 10 sec. violation. By blowing the whistle for the 10 count that was apparently too fast, there is no longer a "right" way out. It is going to be ugly.