table error makes ref look bad

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

"Required" by whom? Not the rules. If the venue or sactioning body requires it, it's still not my concern. Again, if the timer wants to (or is required to) put the information up on the board, it's up to him/her to pay attention. I'm not waiting for him/her and I won't even know if s/he got the information.

For the JUCO Tournament, it's required by the league.

Also for WIAA, (RockyRoad & the others can verify) for playoff games the scoreboard is used for not just the time, but for the foul counts.

Nowhere did I say it was required of the timer to make eye contact with the Reporting Official, I said it was a recommendation that the timer also make eye contact. However it makes things so much easier if the timer is also making the eye contact when a foul was reported, to eliminate the chance of a reporting error.

Generally the coaches get their information from the scoreboard, not the scorebooks.

BTW Table crews are not sexist as both men & women work the table.

[Raymond]

You know how no one remembers who the speaking captains are? Well when I'm reporting fouls I totally zone out as to who the official scorer is. I look at the person in the middle of the table (usually the timer). Works out well b/c I notice that they echo what I said to the 2 scorers.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You know how no one remembers who the speaking captains are? Well when I'm reporting fouls I totally zone out as to who the official scorer is. I look at the person in the middle of the table (usually the timer). Works out well b/c I notice that they echo what I said to the 2 scorers.

In reality, I tend to do this as well. One of the things I'm working on is to actually look at the scorer rather than the timer.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

In reality, I tend to do this as well. One of the things I'm working on is to actually look at the scorer rather than the timer.

Probably because the scorers don't carry tasers.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

In reality, I tend to do this as well. One of the things I'm working on is to actually look at the scorer rather than the timer.

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Probably because the scorers don't carry tasers.

Technically it's the scorer that is supposed to record that information not the timer. Although the timer records the information on the scoreboard, it's not the timer's responsibility.

What would happen if I decided to be a scorer for a game?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by chseagle

What would happen if I decided to be a scorer for a game?

Speaking for officials everywhere, we really don't give a sh!t.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Speaking for officials everywhere, we really don't give a sh!t.

I am trained in all table positions, for one. Even though it's been about 10 years since I've actually done scorer duties.

Did you ask everyone what their thoughts are? If not, then technically you cannot speak for everyone.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by jurassic referee

speaking for officials everywhere, we really don't give a sh!t.

+1

[Loudwhistle2]

Originally Posted by jurassic referee

speaking for officials everywhere, we really don't give a sh!t.

+1

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You know how no one remembers who the speaking captains are? Well when I'm reporting fouls I totally zone out as to who the official scorer is. I look at the person in the middle of the table (usually the timer). Works out well b/c I notice that they echo what I said to the 2 scorers.

That is why when you work with a table with a scorer in stripes int makes a big difference. Its a nice touch when it happens.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

That's why we put the official scorer in the middle. We know that the official will come to half court and report a foul.In our eyes it only makes sense for the official scorer to have the seat even with the division line because that is where the report will occur.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

We know that the official will come to half court and report a foul. In our eyes it only makes sense for the official scorer to have the seat even with the division line because that is where the report will occur.

The reporting area is a lot bigger than that. Three point line to three point line.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

That's why we put the official scorer in the middle. We know that the official will come to half court and report a foul.In our eyes it only makes sense for the official scorer to have the seat even with the division line because that is where the report will occur.

Really? The only time I ever report from the division line is when I happened to make a call from the division line. Usually a handcheck or similar foul, although once I got to report a technical foul from immediately in front of the table.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

True, we also place the scorer in the middle so that the clock operators have access to the power supply.In our set-up we have to run extension cords to the table for the shot and game clocks as well as the sound system.We put the fans on one side and the teams on the other.A lot of our people will report from the 10 ft line on the volleyball court but those people that do college will come all the way to half-court.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

A lot of our people will report from the 10 ft line on the volleyball court but those people that do college will come all the way to half-court.

That surprises me, a lot.