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Old Sun Feb 20, 2011, 09:08pm
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Welcome to the forum. Do not be afraid to ask questions, that's how we get better.

You are correct that assistants shouldn't be speaking to officials about calls during the game. The few times I've had to handle this, I've just asked the head coach to make sure that he/she is the ONLY one speaking with me and my partner about calls. That usually gets the message across.

You are also correct that only the head coach is allowed to stand within the coaches box, assuming your state has adopted that rule. Should the Head Coach get a technical foul, direct or indirect, he/she loses the coach's box privilege.
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2011, 09:16pm
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Rule 11.3.7 - "Any assistant coach who yells at an official is to be smacked upside the head with a frying pan."

I think you can get them at Honigs.
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2011, 09:33pm
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Rule 11.3.7 - "Any assistant coach who yells at an official is to be smacked upside the head with a frying pan."

I think you can get them at Honigs.
I love Rule 11
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Old Sun Feb 20, 2011, 09:41pm
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1. Ignore said Asst. the first time you notice him standing/yelling.
2. Address coach calmly and directly: "Coach, please control your bench".
3. Next time you see asst. standing or addressing you..."T" will be served.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 12:48am
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2. Address coach calmly and directly: "Coach, please control your bench".
For clarity, ND, BZ means addressing the HEAD coach. The head coach is ultimately responsible for his/her bench's conduct.

As for rule references, look at NFHS 10-4-4 and 10-5-1.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 11:53am
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For clarity, ND, BZ means addressing the HEAD coach. The head coach is ultimately responsible for his/her bench's conduct.

As for rule references, look at NFHS 10-4-4 and 10-5-1.
Yeah, NEVER address the assistant coach. I'm just sayin......
When dealing with the bench always address the head coach and make it their responsibility.
The rules for Ast Coaches standing are the same for the players.
Some officials are ok with Ast Coaches standing and coaching their team or talking to an individual player. Some are not. We each have our own threshold for what we allow and what we don't. I think we all can agree that any Ast Coach standing and yelling at officials is over the line.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 12:01pm
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Yeah, NEVER address the assistant coach. I'm just sayin......
When dealing with the bench always address the head coach and make it their responsibility.
The rules for Ast Coaches standing are the same for the players.
Some officials are ok with Ast Coaches standing and coaching their team or talking to an individual player. Some are not. We each have our own threshold for what we allow and what we don't. I think we all can agree that any Ast Coach standing and yelling at officials is over the line.
I disagree. I address the assistant a lot when needed. I just make sure I say this where the head coach is aware. But they are adults too. I just give them a much shorter rope.

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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 12:06pm
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Yeah, NEVER address the assistant coach. I'm just sayin......
When dealing with the bench always address the head coach and make it their responsibility.
The rules for Ast Coaches standing are the same for the players.
Some officials are ok with Ast Coaches standing and coaching their team or talking to an individual player. Some are not. We each have our own threshold for what we allow and what we don't. I think we all can agree that any Ast Coach standing and yelling at officials is over the line.
I, for one, am not OK with the assistants standing. It's not supported by rule, we already have one coach we have to watch out for while along the sideline and it makes it easier to grant timeouts when only 1 person is standing. I will ask nicely the first time, then warn the second time.

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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 01:52am
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1. Ignore said Asst. the first time you notice him standing/yelling.
2. Address coach calmly and directly: "Coach, please control your bench".
3. Next time you see asst. standing or addressing you..."T" will be served.
In a middle school game id probably do this exact thing. But in a high school, that's an immediate T. They know better.
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In a middle school game id probably do this exact thing. But in a high school, that's an immediate T. They know better.
If the assistant coaches haven't crossed the line yet, I always give the coach an opportunity to control his bench.
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When the assistant coach gets chippy, I always want to quote the contributor to this board who said he once said to the coach, "Coach, I'll listen to the organ grinder but not the monkey."
I don't have the guts.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 10:42am
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If the assistant coaches haven't crossed the line yet, I always give the coach an opportunity to control his bench.
Agreed, but standing and yelling at me is already across the line. Easy T for this.
Standind coaching; I'll ignore it the first time. sometimes it corrects itself.
Second time, I'll remind the HC that he's the only one with the ability to stand.

After that....
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In a middle school game id probably do this exact thing. But in a high school, that's an immediate T. They know better.
OOO, imo.
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OOO, imo.
Really? An assistant in a HS varsity game stands up and yells at the officials and we're likely shooting free throws.

I agree with the new guy -- they should know better.
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