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Old Mon Mar 14, 2005, 06:20pm
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Strange Sitch.

Had a game the other day . Post Play. Offence and defence with back to the basket. Offence keeps stepping on defenders feet as he is trying to get position. Defender keeps yelling at me that offence is stepping on his foot.

Best response I could come up with.

"Move your foot!!"

Would anyone call a "Hold". Would it have to be often/ intentional etc.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2005, 06:28pm
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Strange Sitch.

Had a game the other day . Post Play. Offence and defence with back to the basket. Offence keeps stepping on defenders feet as he is trying to get position. Defender keeps yelling at me that offence is stepping on his foot.

Best response I could come up with.

"Move your foot!!"

Would anyone call a "Hold". Would it have to be often/ intentional etc.
Inless you know for SURE he was doing it on purpose, I wouldent call an intentional. Maybe nail him for a hold and he wont do it anymore.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2005, 06:44pm
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Strange Sitch.

Had a game the other day . Post Play. Offence and defence with back to the basket. Offence keeps stepping on defenders feet as he is trying to get position. Defender keeps yelling at me that offence is stepping on his foot.

Best response I could come up with.

"Move your foot!!"

Would anyone call a "Hold". Would it have to be often/ intentional etc.
I think the intentional is warranted. If he's doing it multiple times, then his intent is to get the defensive player to move. The defensive player is entitled to his position on the floor and these dirty tactics should be punished.

I wouldn't call it a hold, I'd call it a push.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2005, 10:27pm
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Strange Sitch.

Had a game the other day . Post Play. Offence and defence with back to the basket. Offence keeps stepping on defenders feet as he is trying to get position. Defender keeps yelling at me that offence is stepping on his foot.

Best response I could come up with.

"Move your foot!!"

Would anyone call a "Hold". Would it have to be often/ intentional etc.


First, this is a play that has to be seen before any of us can really make a call.

Second, I would have to say that if A1 is trying to step on B1's feet and try to catch a ball or do anything else, I would think it would be very difficult.

Third, I think the best think to do is to ask A1's girlfriend if he has two left feet when he dances.

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Third, I think the best think to do is to ask A1's girlfriend if she has two left feet when she dances.

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Would love to hear the answer in a girl's game.

But if you think it's being done on purpose, I've got a hold or an INT, but after you verbalize a warning.
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Old Mon Mar 14, 2005, 10:59pm
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Third, I think the best think to do is to ask A1's girlfriend if she has two left feet when she dances.

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Would love to hear the answer in a girl's game.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2005, 10:36am
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Third, I think the best think to do is to ask A1's girlfriend if she has two left feet when she dances.

MTD, Sr.
Would love to hear the answer in a girl's game.

But if you think it's being done on purpose, I've got a hold or an INT, but after you verbalize a warning.
It is probably asked in Wisconsin. First state I've been in where the girls danced with girls (Sparta, Tomah, Ft. McCoy, etc.)
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2005, 11:34am
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I wouldn't call it a hold, I'd call it a push.
Because the offender is pushing with his foot on the defender's foot? Seriously, I don't see why a push would be a better call than a hold, which seems to be the right one to me, though it doesn't make such a difference. Could you explain?
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2005, 11:40am
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Seems to me this more of an interference call. Sry wrong sport. Maybe we need something like that called in Hoops.

I have seen and used this tactic many times playing the post, it is intentional, and works great to gain position. I will verbally warn the offender then call a personal foul to get them to stop. Usually the warning is enough to get tehm to stop because now they know I am watching.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2005, 11:45am
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depending on severity and if you deemed the intentions to injure, could be unsportsmanlike. any thoughts here??
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Seems to me this more of an interference call. Sry wrong sport. Maybe we need something like that called in Hoops.
How about yellow and red cards?

There's a few guys in men's leagues I'd love to stand in front of and hold up a red card.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2005, 02:22pm
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Seems to me this more of an interference call. Sry wrong sport. Maybe we need something like that called in Hoops.
Not only we actually have interference, we got 2 types! (i.e.: holding and blocking) At least, these are the only ones I think of.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2005, 03:22pm
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I wouldn't call it a hold, I'd call it a push.
Because the offender is pushing with his foot on the defender's foot? Seriously, I don't see why a push would be a better call than a hold, which seems to be the right one to me, though it doesn't make such a difference. Could you explain?
The proper call is "Illegal use of feet." Signal is performed much like illegal use of hands, only using both legs raised. The existence of this little known and infrequently used signal is the reason that female officials are not allowed to wear skirts.
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Old Tue Mar 15, 2005, 08:42pm
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I wouldn't call it a hold, I'd call it a push.
Because the offender is pushing with his foot on the defender's foot? Seriously, I don't see why a push would be a better call than a hold, which seems to be the right one to me, though it doesn't make such a difference. Could you explain?
I just don't think it qualifies as holding. Holding to me means grasping or encircling an opponent. No one is grasping or encircling. So I don't have a hold.

Now somehting I've picked up from the guys who do university ball up here is when contact, usually this happens on a block, is made with the leg, they'll raise their leg a bit and slap their thigh. I think this would be the most appropriate mechanic to use here, although technically it isn't an official mechanic.
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