Assistants yelling, standing up

[notredame_999]

I officiate a middle school league on saturdays that uses high school rules. An assistant stood up and yelled at me I told him as an assistant he needed to sit down, and for the remainder of the game only the head coach will address me. I told him this is high school rules. To be honest though, I don't really know the high school rule regarding assistants. I know they are required to sit down, but are they allowed to yell at the officials during the game (not a timeout)? Are they allowed to call out plays and instructions to a team on the court during play?

I just can't find this in the rule book. I'm a young offcial so any help would be appreciated.

[grunewar]

Yelled at you? Whack!

He can chat a bit, yell plays, talk to the players - don't care.

But, yell at you? No way!

[JugglingReferee]

Technical foul.

[stiffler3492]

Welcome to the forum. Do not be afraid to ask questions, that's how we get better.

You are correct that assistants shouldn't be speaking to officials about calls during the game. The few times I've had to handle this, I've just asked the head coach to make sure that he/she is the ONLY one speaking with me and my partner about calls. That usually gets the message across.

You are also correct that only the head coach is allowed to stand within the coaches box, assuming your state has adopted that rule. Should the Head Coach get a technical foul, direct or indirect, he/she loses the coach's box privilege.

[Mark Padgett]

Rule 11.3.7 - "Any assistant coach who yells at an official is to be smacked upside the head with a frying pan."

I think you can get them at Honigs.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Rule 11.3.7 - "Any assistant coach who yells at an official is to be smacked upside the head with a frying pan."

I think you can get them at Honigs.

I love Rule 11

[Bad Zebra]

1. Ignore said Asst. the first time you notice him standing/yelling.
2. Address coach calmly and directly: "Coach, please control your bench".
3. Next time you see asst. standing or addressing you..."T" will be served.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

2. Address coach calmly and directly: "Coach, please control your bench".

For clarity, ND, BZ means addressing the HEAD coach. The head coach is ultimately responsible for his/her bench's conduct.

As for rule references, look at NFHS 10-4-4 and 10-5-1.

[ThatOneRef]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

1. Ignore said Asst. the first time you notice him standing/yelling.
2. Address coach calmly and directly: "Coach, please control your bench".
3. Next time you see asst. standing or addressing you..."T" will be served.

In a middle school game id probably do this exact thing. But in a high school, that's an immediate T. They know better.

[APG]

Originally Posted by ThatOneRef

In a middle school game id probably do this exact thing. But in a high school, that's an immediate T. They know better.

If the assistant coaches haven't crossed the line yet, I always give the coach an opportunity to control his bench.

[Freddy]

When the assistant coach gets chippy, I always want to quote the contributor to this board who said he once said to the coach, "Coach, I'll listen to the organ grinder but not the monkey."
I don't have the guts.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ThatOneRef

In a middle school game id probably do this exact thing. But in a high school, that's an immediate T. They know better.

OOO, imo.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

OOO, imo.

Really? An assistant in a HS varsity game stands up and yells at the officials and we're likely shooting free throws.

I agree with the new guy -- they should know better.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

If the assistant coaches haven't crossed the line yet, I always give the coach an opportunity to control his bench.

Agreed, but standing and yelling at me is already across the line. Easy T for this.
Standind coaching; I'll ignore it the first time. sometimes it corrects itself.
Second time, I'll remind the HC that he's the only one with the ability to stand.

After that....

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

OOO, imo.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Really? An assistant in a HS varsity game stands up and yells at the officials and we're likely shooting free throws.

I agree with the new guy -- they should know better.

Bob may have just had the 'auto response' click in.