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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 08:46pm
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The penalty for disconcertion is awarding another free throw if it is missed. It is ignored if the free throw is made. Could you issue a techincail foul for the specfic action? Sure, but there's no reason to go looking for a reason to whack.

If it's close to disconcertion, you can warn. If they disconcert, enforce.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 09:14pm
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The penalty for disconcertion is awarding another free throw if it is missed. It is ignored if the free throw is made. Could you issue a techincail foul for the specfic action? Sure, but there's no reason to go looking for a reason to whack.

If it's close to disconcertion, you can warn. If they disconcert, enforce.
That is my take on this issue too.

As with a lane violation (defense) if basket is good, we just move on. Jurassic had me thinking I may not have a leg to stand on by awarding another free-throw for disconcerting the shooter. Made it sound like I either had to T up or ignore. I honestly don't have a current NFHS book, nor do I officiate Association games (yet).

I have in fact awarded another free-throw for disconcertion, but have never T'd a player for it. Do my best to talk em out of trouble. If they get a T from me they usually had it coming 10mins ago.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 09:35pm
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That is my take on this issue too.

As with a lane violation (defense) if basket is good, we just move on. Jurassic had me thinking I may not have a leg to stand on by awarding another free-throw for disconcerting the shooter. Made it sound like I either had to T up or ignore. I honestly don't have a current NFHS book, nor do I officiate Association games (yet).

I have in fact awarded another free-throw for disconcertion, but have never T'd a player for it. Do my best to talk em out of trouble. If they get a T from me they usually had it coming 10mins ago.
The only way I'd give a T for disconcertion is if a player said something that in of itself would be unsportsmanlike, or if they kept repeating the violation one after another and thus was making a travesty of the game. This is similar to a team repeating free throw violations at the end of the game to ensure a made basket when the offense is trying to intentionally miss.

What JR was trying to say is if a player disconcerts, there is no warning and to call the violation (if applicable). Now if a player is close to disconcerting, or if the player makes the free throw, you can tell the play to knock it out.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 09:40pm
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The only way I'd give a T for disconcertion is if a player said something that in of itself would be unsportsmanlike, or if they kept repeating the violation one after another and thus was making a travesty of the game. This is similar to a team repeating free throw violations at the end of the game to ensure a made basket when the offense is trying to intentionally miss.

What JR was trying to say is if a player disconcerts, there is no warning and to call the violation (if applicable). Now if a player is close to disconcerting, or if the player makes the free throw, you can tell the play to knock it out.
You're a nice guy, APG. Maybe you can take some time and explain why it's legal to throw the ball off your own backboard too.
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Old Fri Feb 18, 2011, 10:00pm
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You're a nice guy, APG. Maybe you can take some time and explain why it's legal to throw the ball off your own backboard too.
Haha! I'm not even sure why I've spent so long on that front.
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