Double dribble

[tref]

A1 (in the Ts PCA) fumbles the ball on a pass from A5 (in the Ls PCA) then dribbles after picking up the ball. Bench & fans begin screaming for double dribble & L feels compelled to blow his whistle to call the "violation."

If the T went to the L & provided the info, by rule, can the L go with an IW?

[Adam]

Sure he could, by rule.

[APG]

There's nothing that says you can't go with an inadvertent whistle of the calling official wants to change his call.

[tref]

Thanks

[APG]

Originally Posted by tref

Thanks

Was there an issue where someone said you couldn't change the call?

[tref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Was there an issue where someone said you couldn't change the call?

Nah a buddy of mine said it happened to her (the T) & she wasnt sure if it could be fixed as an IW.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by tref

A1 (in the Ts PCA) fumbles the ball on a pass from A5 (in the Ls PCA) then dribbles after picking up the ball. Bench & fans begin screaming for double dribble & L feels compelled to blow his whistle to call the "violation."

If the T went to the L & provided the info, by rule, can the L go with an IW?

Let's hope that the T does go to the L and discuss an IW.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by tref

A1 (in the Ts PCA) fumbles the ball on a pass from A5 (in the Ls PCA) then dribbles after picking up the ball. Bench & fans begin screaming for double dribble & L feels compelled to blow his whistle to call the "violation."

If the T went to the L & provided the info, by rule, can the L go with an IW?

But, let's just say, this is not something you want to make a habit of.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tref

A1 (in the Ts PCA) fumbles the ball on a pass from A5 (in the Ls PCA) then dribbles after picking up the ball. Bench & fans begin screaming for double dribble & L feels compelled to blow his whistle to call the "violation."

If the T went to the L & provided the info, by rule, can the L go with an IW?

I'm not going over there. For all anybody knows the L ruled the first action a dribble. How does the T know the L made the call based on the crowd reaction?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm not going over there. For all anybody knows the L ruled the first action a dribble. How does the T know the L made the call based on the crowd reaction?

Exactly. I've gone fishing to make a travel call, and the primary official just looked at me as we went the other way. I knew almost immediately that I'd screwed up, so before he could say a word to me at half time, I apologized. Inexplicably, I did it again a week later to another veteran official. That was several seasons ago.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm not going over there. For all anybody knows the L ruled the first action a dribble. How does the T know the L made the call based on the crowd reaction?

Its a 3 whistle game, so its just 5-7 steps down.

If A5 passed the ball from the low post, how could the L possibly rule on what A1 did in the Ts PCA?

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Exactly. I've gone fishing to make a travel call, and the primary official just looked at me as we went the other way. I knew almost immediately that I'd screwed up, so before he could say a word to me at half time, I apologized. Inexplicably, I did it again a week later to another veteran official. That was several seasons ago.

Snaqs, couldn't you have called your own IW to make it right?


I understand that we cant make a habit of this during one contest, but I think we should "get it right" depending on the game situation.

5 point game in the 1st Q... maybe not as the team can recover from this IC.
2 point game with :52 left in th 4th Q... most definitely, huh?

I think good partnering & good GM skills include the "get it right" mentality vs. "boy did he get that one wrong" mindset. JMO

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Let's hope that the T does go to the L and discuss an IW.

IKR!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

Snaqs, couldn't you have called your own IW to make it right?

Sure, but the time it took me to process my mistake lasted past the throw-in. His look made me question it, but it took me a second. Even then, I wasn't "sure" I had blown it. More of a gut instinct. But that was the problem; I didn't know for sure either way so I should have let it go.

[tref]

Gotcha! I guess its good practice to let the game situation determine whether we give IC information to a partner or not.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

Gotcha! I guess its good practice to let the game situation determine whether we give IC information to a partner or not.

Yep, and both cases I wouldn't have minded a bit of correction on the court. Players rising from what I thought was their knee; told later they didn't control the ball until they'd already risen off the knee.
Weird that I had two nearly identical plays like that so close together.
Weird that both were out of my primary but I was watching anyway; one was through a group of players in the lane in a 2-whistle game where I was T.
Weird that both vets (30 plus years each) waited til an intermission to correct me. Maybe not so weird, I guess, on this one.