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Old Thu Feb 17, 2011, 03:22pm
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So, Eastshire, if I am following your line of thinking correctly here...doubleheader. Game #2 is "scheduled" to start at 8:00. First game goes into triple overtime (Padgett's fault). Teams for second game take the court to being their warmups at 8:20, and both coaches submit their rosters/starters at that time. You are going to assess both of them T's because they should have had their rosters/starters turned in by 7:50 - 10 min. prior to the scheduled start time???

Really?

Seriously??
I've never worked a doubleheader with the second game scheduled to start at specific time. They've all been scheduled to start after the conclusion of the previous game.
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Old Thu Feb 17, 2011, 03:26pm
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I've never worked a doubleheader with the second game scheduled to start at specific time. They've all been scheduled to start after the conclusion of the previous game.
I cannot think of many games that are apart of a double header that are not scheduled at a specific time. Even JV/Varsity double headers or college games there is a game before or after in most cases and the second game has a start time. Not to say we ever make it to that start time, but it happens. That is why I figured there was a local interpretation that affected your position on this.

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Old Thu Feb 17, 2011, 03:29pm
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I cannot think of many games that are apart of a double header that are not scheduled at a specific time. Even JV/Varsity double headers or college games there is a game before or after in most cases and the second game has a start time. Not to say we ever make it to that start time, but it happens. That is why I figured there was a local interpretation that affected your position on this.

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I've worked in three different states. In all three of them, the varsity game starts 25-30 minutes after the conclusion of the JV game. It doesn't matter if the JV games takes 45 minutes and the varsity tickets say 8:00, they're starting at 7:15. The only way to make sure you see the varsity tip is to show up at JV half-time.
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Old Thu Feb 17, 2011, 03:36pm
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I've worked in three different states. In all three of them, the varsity game starts 25-30 minutes after the conclusion of the JV game. It doesn't matter if the JV games takes 45 minutes and the varsity tickets say 8:00, they're starting at 7:15. The only way to make sure you see the varsity tip is to show up at JV half-time.
So when you get your schedule, there isn't a time listed for the start of the varsity game?

You could also check the websites of the high schools, I'll bet they have times noted for the varsity tip off.
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I've worked in three different states. In all three of them, the varsity game starts 25-30 minutes after the conclusion of the JV game. It doesn't matter if the JV games takes 45 minutes and the varsity tickets say 8:00, they're starting at 7:15. The only way to make sure you see the varsity tip is to show up at JV half-time.
Most games I work have a contract and that is to be followed as close as possible. So if a game ends early, the game time is not supposed to start until game time. Now the schools control this, but they cannot claim someone was late if they start early as what time we get there are based on the scheduled time. Many parents get upset if the game is scheduled for 7:30 and they start 7:15. That is why I would never judge a penalty based on the game time in real time, but based on what the clock says. And it is expected teams be given the right time to warm-up. About the only sport that does not have this expectation I work is baseball. But in basketball we might start earlier, but the clock is what we base that off of, not the actual time. Most JV games are scheduled an hour and a half before the varsity contest. That almost never happens that smoothly to where we would start at the exact time after a previous game, and certainly not if we put time on the clock to warm-up.

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Old Thu Feb 17, 2011, 03:42pm
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So when you get your schedule, there isn't a time listed for the start of the varsity game?

You could also check the websites of the high schools, I'll bet they have times noted for the varsity tip off.
I've not had any varsity contract in my new state so I don't know what the varsity officials get. All of the times I've checked a schools web site to double check start times, the list the varsity game with the JV start time. For example, Boy's Varsity Basketball vs. Visitors @ 6:00 PM, with 6:00 being the JV start time.

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Most games I work have a contract and that is to be followed as close as possible. So if a game ends early, the game time is not supposed to start until game time. Now the schools control this, but they cannot claim someone was late if they start early as what time we get there are based on the scheduled time. Many parents get upset if the game is scheduled for 7:30 and they start 7:15. That is why I would never judge a penalty based on the game time in real time, but based on what the clock says. And it is expected teams be given the right time to warm-up. About the only sport that does not have this expectation I work is baseball. But in basketball we might start earlier, but the clock is what we base that off of, not the actual time. Most JV games are scheduled an hour and a half before the varsity contest. That almost never happens that smoothly to where we would start at the exact time after a previous game, and certainly not if we put time on the clock to warm-up.

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I've not had any varsity contract in my new state so I don't know what the varsity officials get. All of the times I've checked a schools web site to double check start times, the list the varsity game with the JV start time. For example, Boy's Varsity Basketball vs. Visitors @ 6:00 PM, with 6:00 being the JV start time.
Interesting. I can tell you in the areas I've worked (3 metro areas in 2 states), the varsity games all have start times assigned. Even if they're tentative, they're still scheduled.
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Old Thu Feb 17, 2011, 03:47pm
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Interesting. I can tell you in the areas I've worked (3 metro areas in 2 states), the varsity games all have start times assigned. Even if they're tentative, they're still scheduled.
So, if they have a quick JV game do they wait for the scheduled start or do they start early?
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Here it is the same as what Eastshire is saying. JV games usually start at 6:00, followed by the V game. They always put 15 minutes up after the JV game and we go off of that.
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