Thoughts?

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Didn't handle a situation very well last night in a state tournament game and would like opinions(please sir may I have another)

I call foul and report, we are shooting two I turn to face basket, players are not getting lined up, fouling team is now starting to huddle near bench behind me(time frame about 2-3 seconds) I turn around and table then tells me five fouls. I tell coach who already knew, and is busy 'coaching' I turn and signal to partners five fouls and tell table to start clock. First horn blows and the R for game starts walking to table telling coach lets go, coach who is not happy to begin with is barking "I get 20 seconds" I tell partner I've got it, they continue the dialogue and now second horn goes off and coach is in my ear that he didn't have time to set up play as other official was 'barking' at him. We administer free throws and coach is still percolating over scenario.

IMO in retrospect, table not buzzing distracted me somewhat. I should have communicated better to partners for fifth foul as they both seemed in the dark which would have prevented R coming to table which was unnecessary. New player had aready reported so we were good there. I"m thinking I could have walked to R and told him, relax, I've got it, although I did repeat I've got it,five fouls. This would have bought coach the few seconds he was looking for. Bottom line, he felt rushed, maybe rightfully so.

It was at critical time in a close game. That said, if coach would have ignored other official( as coaches tend to do when we're yelling let's go, etc.)
he would have had his extra few seconds. To my eye it was sloppy.

I agree with most saying this is not a really big deal. What I have not seen:

You should "hand off" all foul outs to one of your partners. As soon as you know it is 5, you should let a non-calling official notify the player, the coach, and start the clock. It removes all risk of the coach chipping at you for calling the foul, and you having to be near the table for that. Doing this may have helped your situation a little bit.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

I agree with most saying this is not a really big deal. What I have not seen:

You should "hand off" all foul outs to one of your partners. As soon as you know it is 5, you should let a non-calling official notify the player, the coach, and start the clock. It removes all risk of the coach chipping at you for calling the foul, and you having to be near the table for that. Doing this may have helped your situation a little bit.

Coach wasn't chipping about the foul. He was using a 20 second timeout that he's not entitled to use.

And your "remedy" is used in some areas, and no in others. Unless he's in an area that enforces this, then you don't know what he "should" do.

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Coach wasn't chipping about the foul. He was using a 20 second timeout that he's not entitled to use.

And your "remedy" is used in some areas, and no in others. Unless he's in an area that enforces this, then you don't know what he "should" do.

I suggested a good practice that would be prudent for all officials in every foul out situation. It should be used in all areas at all times, in my opinion.

[tref]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

As soon as you know it is 5, you should let a non-calling official notify the player, the coach, and start the clock.

Coach, timer, then player

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And your "remedy" is used in some areas, and no in others. Unless he's in an area that enforces this, then you don't know what he "should" do.

True, in my ballgames we handle our own business. Coaches dont scare us, we have tools for handling unsporting coaches.