Thoughts?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

1) Late in a game, take some more time facing the table to give them time to tell you it's 5 fouls (or, maybe, know it in advance, or, maybe, listen the the PA announcer).

2) When in all this did the sub report? That's when the "time to talk to the team" ends, despite what the coach says about his/her 20 seconds.

3) Be REALLY CLEAR on notifying your partners.

4) Be REALLY CLEAR on notifying your partners.

5) Be REALLY CLEAR on notifying your partners. Guilty as charged. Could have done a better job, The onus is on me to let them know what's happening even if they're on 'break'.

Regarding # 2), good point and I honestly don't recall. I know he was milking it though.

Bob, I've been on the other end and not knowing the situation, I 'stand down' and let table official handle unless I'm beckoned. Thoughts?

[tref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

5) Be REALLY CLEAR on notifying your partners. Guilty as charged. Could have done a better job, The onus is on me to let them know what's happening even if they're on 'break'.
Regarding # 2), good point and I honestly don't recall. I know he was milking it though.

Bob, I've been on the other end and not knowing the situation, I 'stand down' and let table official handle unless I'm beckoned. Thoughts?

Who's on break during a dead ball??

If the player is not on the X (not on his way to the X) by the 2nd horn... WHACK!

No PA guy? No player fouls on the board? Where are these guys playing, at the wreck center?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by tref

Who's on break during a dead ball??

If the player is not on the X (not on his way to the X) by the 2nd horn... WHACK!

No PA guy? No player fouls on the board? Where are these guys playing, at the wreck center?

Player was legal, No PA or buzzer and really no indication of fifth foul.

Where's Chseagle when you need him?

[tref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I've been on the other end and not knowing the situation, I 'stand down' and let table official handle unless I'm beckoned. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by fullor30

No PA or buzzer and really no indication of fifth foul.

In that case, "Partner, what do we have?" works well for me. I dont like not knowing whats going on out there.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Player was legal, No PA or buzzer and really no indication of fifth foul.

Where's Chseagle when you need him?

He was posting here most likely.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Bob, I've been on the other end and not knowing the situation, I 'stand down' and let table official handle unless I'm beckoned. Thoughts?

Usually, that's good advice.

But, if, for example, the sub had already reported (and, heck, maybe even entered) and the administering official didn't see it; or if the official looks lost; or the opposing coach had already complained (perhaps earlier) about the "delay" and I was trying to head off trouble, or ...

Then, I might try to get involved, but the manner in which I did so would depend on the game and my partners.

[JRutledge]

This is not even something I would agonize over. It sounds like there was some confusion. Communicate and go on. If the coach wants to get upset about what an official told them, that is there problem. I would not care about that at all. Of course you could have communicated better, but I am sure the coach knew the deal and was trying to get an advantage. This is not a critical issue and if the coach wants to explain things to players he should call a timeout.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Perhaps I overlooked it but it wasn't clear to me in the situation whether the partner did or did not know that a DQ had just occurred or whether he was just rushing the coach for some other reason.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Perhaps I overlooked it but it wasn't clear to me in the situation whether the partner did or did not know that a DQ had just occurred or whether he was just rushing the coach for some other reason.

I don't know what he knew, as someone mentioned "partner, what do we have" is the norm before you start telling a coach to break it up. Other partner was in dark too. I didn't communicate enough, coupled with no horn, I can see their confusion somewhat. All easily avoidable. Not a big deal, but bothered me being a state tournament game and I pride myself on game management situations. I can promise you this, it won't happen again.

[tref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I can promise you this, it won't happen again.

The morning after, this ^ is all that matters. Rather it happen at this level than in a college game.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tref

The morning after, this ^ is all that matters. Rather it happen at this level than in a college game.

Why would that matter at all?

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by tref

The morning after, this ^ is all that matters. Rather it happen at this level than in a college game.

I don't do college other than a few juco games.

I don't want it to happen at any level.

[rockyroad]

Fullor30, the bottom line here is that the Coach tried to make his 20 second replacement time into a time-out. I think that's probably why your R came over and interjected himself into the situation. That's not what that time is meant for.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Usually, that's good advice.

But, if, for example, the sub had already reported (and, heck, maybe even entered) and the administering official didn't see it; or if the official looks lost; or the opposing coach had already complained (perhaps earlier) about the "delay" and I was trying to head off trouble, or ...

Then, I might try to get involved, but the manner in which I did so would depend on the game and my partners.

All valid points..............