Principle of Verticality

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That could be. I wonder if they know that "straight up" doesn't require both feet on the floor at the time of contact, though.

That's a legitimate question. But if they don't, I guess that would make the rule "misunderstood."

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That's a legitimate question. But if they don't, I guess that would make the rule "misunderstood."

Maybe. I believe "misunderstood" means knowing a rule exists, but not knowing its meaning or how it works. I believe that some don't know verticality exists at all, and that goes well beyond misunderstanding. That's ignorance.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Nor I.

My point is, I don't believe this is a misunderstood rule. I believe that some don't know this principle exists at all (hence word "ignorance"). In other words, they believe you can't draw a charge if you're in the air.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I disagree. I've heard more complaints of "wasn't he straight up" than "he was moving" on these plays. They understand it, but only choose to play ignorant when it suits them.

How in the world do you go from this response:

Originally Posted by bainsey

That could be. I wonder if they know that "straight up" doesn't require both feet on the floor at the time of contact, though.

To this one?

Originally Posted by bainsey

Maybe. I believe "misunderstood" means knowing a rule exists, but not knowing its meaning or how it works. I believe that some don't know verticality exists at all, and that goes well beyond misunderstanding. That's ignorance.

I personally think they all (95% of players and coaches) know about verticality but simply misunderstand it. Some of them plead ignorance when such ignorance would warrant a foul in their favor.

Again, I get far more compaints when I call fouls on defenders who aren't vertical than when I don't call something against a legal defender. Even when I do get complaints about non-calls, "he was straight up" virtually always satisfies the coach. He knows the rule, he just wants me to forget it when it's convenient for him.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How in the world do you go from this response:.....To this one?

Must be your awesome power of persuasion, Snaqs!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Must be your awesome power of persuasion, Snaqs!

Maybe, but you went backwards.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Maybe, but you went backwards.

But did he have LGP?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That's a legitimate question. But if they don't, I guess that would make the rule "misunderstood."

They understand it if it is THEIR player on defense.