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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 11:02am
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What does where you live have to do with this?
That is a much overused argument that he uses when he has no other logical points to back up his argument.

To his credit, he has not busted that one out in a looonnnggg time. But - here it is again.

And it has nothing to do with the OP.
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 11:08am
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That is a much overused argument that he uses when he has no other logical points to back up his argument.

To his credit, he has not busted that one out in a looonnnggg time. But - here it is again.

And it has nothing to do with the OP.
The person and the game is in the same area I do. Yes it does matter. People from 3 states over have no idea what is expected here.

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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 11:32am
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To answer your question...

Yes you should be upset. You should be upset with yourself for being late for an avoidable reason (not leaving early enough) and for even assuming that you were wronged in all of this.
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 11:57am
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Turning in a slightly different direction ...

Didn't want to confuse by starting another thread on somewhat similar topic.

How would you handle this 'non-working' scenario:

You're scheduled for two games and the visiting team in the second game doesn't show for at least 45 minutes, when you have to leave. What was originally supposed to be a triple-header was knocked down to a double-header months ago because one team pulled out of the middle game. The change went through the Arbiter and everyone knows about it, except the V team, apparently.

This is MS-age travel ball, by the way. I hang as long as I can but the have to leave to work HS ball. My partner said he would stay and work it, alone if necessary, when the other team arrived.

Who should get paid what?
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 12:14pm
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Didn't want to confuse by starting another thread on somewhat similar topic.

How would you handle this 'non-working' scenario:

You're scheduled for two games and the visiting team in the second game doesn't show for at least 45 minutes, when you have to leave. What was originally supposed to be a triple-header was knocked down to a double-header months ago because one team pulled out of the middle game. The change went through the Arbiter and everyone knows about it, except the V team, apparently.

This is MS-age travel ball, by the way. I hang as long as I can but the have to leave to work HS ball. My partner said he would stay and work it, alone if necessary, when the other team arrived.

Who should get paid what?
I'm a little confused by your scenario. You're saying the second game was correct on Arbiter but the visitors didn't show? In that case, yes, I would hope to be paid. I held up my end of the deal. I wouldn't, however, force the issue.

The only time I've ever forced the issue on being paid was when a game got canceled at 10:00 AM (due to a bomb threat) and the AD didn't call me until 3:15 PM and left a message on my answering machine (I'd left for the game at 3:00). I got my money but never received another game at that school (not that I wanted one).
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 12:46pm
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I'm a little confused by your scenario. You're saying the second game was correct on Arbiter but the visitors didn't show? In that case, yes, I would hope to be paid. I held up my end of the deal. I wouldn't, however, force the issue.

The only time I've ever forced the issue on being paid was when a game got canceled at 10:00 AM (due to a bomb threat) and the AD didn't call me until 3:15 PM and left a message on my answering machine (I'd left for the game at 3:00). I got my money but never received another game at that school (not that I wanted one).
Sorry about that. Yes, the second game was correct on Arbiter, except the visiting team didn't notice it had been moved up an hour, apparently.

I don't plan to push much (rather just report to the assigner and see where the chips fall), but I was wondering what others would do. Thanks
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 12:26pm
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The person and the game is in the same area I do. Yes it does matter. People from 3 states over have no idea what is expected here.

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The question was whether the OP'er should be upset that he did not get paid for something that he did not do...

Makes no difference where you are from. The answer is no.
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 12:36pm
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The question was whether the OP'er should be upset that he did not get paid for something that he did not do...

Makes no difference where you are from. The answer is no.
Yep, a different but related question would be, "Is this what I should have expected?"
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 12:48pm
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Due to the nature of my commute, I often drive upwards of 70 miles to a game; sometimes through the rush hour of two separate metropolitan areas combined with what has to be one of the busiest rural interstate stretches in the country.
The worst I have ever done is show with just enough time to change clothes and hit the court; and that was due to a car accident blocking traffic near the Air Force Academy. Had it not been for the frosh game taking a bit long, I would have truly been late (I walked into the building at 5:30 for a scheduled 5:30 game).
The worst part was, as I walked into the locker room, the local board president was in the middle of getting dressed to fill in for me (he was there for the varsity game after my game). It was not my shining moment.
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Yeah 25 is no joke, particularly South. I leave 2 hours early when I have to go that route.

BL is generally a page turner... did he give you a pass?
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 01:05pm
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Yeah 25 is no joke, particularly South. I leave 2 hours early when I have to go that route.

BL is generally a page turner... did he give you a pass?
Not much was said, really. Ever.
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 01:07pm
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Due to the nature of my commute, I often drive upwards of 70 miles to a game; sometimes through the rush hour of two separate metropolitan areas combined with what has to be one of the busiest rural interstate stretches in the country.
The worst I have ever done is show with just enough time to change clothes and hit the court; and that was due to a car accident blocking traffic near the Air Force Academy. Had it not been for the frosh game taking a bit long, I would have truly been late (I walked into the building at 5:30 for a scheduled 5:30 game).
The worst part was, as I walked into the locker room, the local board president was in the middle of getting dressed to fill in for me (he was there for the varsity game after my game). It was not my shining moment.
There are some in my area that would want to pull your games for being this late. Or say that if the another officials is dressed to work, then they will finish the game.

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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 01:21pm
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There are some in my area that would want to pull your games for being this late. Or say that if the another officials is dressed to work, then they will finish the game.

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Worked with a guy this season that showed up 20 minutes before tip-off. State evaluator just happened to be observing & sat in on our pregame

My partner & I changed from greys to stripes as the official from the prior game only had stripes. Our 3rd strolls in & the evaluator says, "you're off this game!" 3rd says, "you're not the assignor, I'm working!" So we changed back to greys. I dont expect he will go too far in the tourney...
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 12:37pm
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The question was whether the OP'er should be upset that he did not get paid for something that he did not do...

Makes no difference where you are from. The answer is no.
I was not only responding to what the OP'er was saying. And his level of being upset over this is up to him, not people that have different areas that have different or specific policies. Here it is expected to have "traffic" problems and many times depending on the nature of the situation it is not considered a big deal.

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