Free Throw Situation

[ARef]

Player A1 is fouled as is entitled to (A) 2 free throws and (B) a Bonus (1&1) free throw. After the ball is placed at the disposal of the shooter and before he shoots the attempt, A1 swears at opposing player. What is the application?

[mbyron]

NFHS: shoot the free throws for the foul, then administer the technical.

NCAA: I believe you administer the technical first, then return to the POI.

[McMac]

Originally Posted by ARef

Player A1 is fouled as is entitled to (A) 2 free throws and (B) a Bonus (1&1) free throw. After the ball is placed at the disposal of the shooter and before he shoots the attempt, A1 swears at opposing player. What is the application?

Shoot in the order they happen. Foul first, T second.

A) A1 shoots 2 free throws, lane cleared. Any eligible member of B shoots 2 free throws, B gets ball half court.

B) A1 shoots bonus per rules, lane cleared. Any eligible member of B shoots 2 free throws, B gets ball half court.

[jTheUmp]

Technical foul on A1.

Penalties are administered in order of occurrence.

A1 shoots 1 (or 2) free throws with the lane cleared.

Any B player then shoots 2 free throws for the Technical foul, with the lane cleared.

Throw-in for B at midcourt, opposite table.

[ARef]

Here is my issue with applying in the order in which the fouls occurred. Rule 4-20, art 2: The free throw begins when the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower, and art 3: ends when ... the ball becomes dead. My reading of this is the free throw ends in this situation when I blow the T. Am I wrong?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by ARef

Here is my issue with applying in the order in which the fouls occurred. Rule 4-20, art 2: The free throw begins when the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower, and art 3: ends when ... the ball becomes dead. My reading of this is the free throw ends in this situation when I blow the T. Am I wrong?

The whistle would stop the play. A1 would then shoot his free throw(s) with the lane empty, followed by administration of the T.

[shutupneff]

What if it was A1's second technical? Does coach A get to choose a player off the bench to enter the game and shoot teap A's freethrow(s)?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by shutupneff

What if it was A1's second technical? Does coach A get to choose a player off the bench to enter the game and shoot teap A's freethrow(s)?

Yep. A DQ'd player must leave immediately. When a player that is due FTs is not able to continue for any reason, their sub will shoot the FTs.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ARef

Here is my issue with applying in the order in which the fouls occurred. Rule 4-20, art 2: The free throw begins when the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower, and art 3: ends when ... the ball becomes dead. My reading of this is the free throw ends in this situation when I blow the T. Am I wrong?

The FT might end, but until it is taken or lost through a violation (not a foul), it remains due.

[ARef]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The FT might end, but until it is taken or lost through a violation (not a foul), it remains due.

Do you have a caseplay for this?

[APG]

Originally Posted by ARef

Here is my issue with applying in the order in which the fouls occurred. Rule 4-20, art 2: The free throw begins when the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower, and art 3: ends when ... the ball becomes dead. My reading of this is the free throw ends in this situation when I blow the T. Am I wrong?

The free throw might have ended but Team A is still entitled to two shots. The only way they would lose one of those attempts is by committing a free throw violation or having a try miss.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ARef

Here is my issue with applying in the order in which the fouls occurred. Rule 4-20, art 2: The free throw begins when the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower, and art 3: ends when ... the ball becomes dead. My reading of this is the free throw ends in this situation when I blow the T. Am I wrong?

Originally Posted by ARef

Do you have a caseplay for this?

Case 8.6.2 (2009-10 book) should do it. The first foul is a T with the second foul (flagrant in the case play, but irrelevant to the play at hand) occuring after the shooter has the ball. The ruling mentions taking the FTs for the T and then the FTs for the second foul.

Would you take away a FT if the team called a timeout after the shooter had the ball?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

The free throw might of ended but Team A is still entitled to two shots.

APG, imo you're better than this. C'mon man!

[APG]

Originally Posted by mbyron

APG, imo you're better than this. C'mon man!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

APG, imo you're better than this. C'mon man!

Maybe he just does it to piss you off. That's a worthy cause.