2-Man Mechanics

[tref]

In the IAABO manual it says the L officials may apply the A, B, C technique. We all know the difference between "may" & "shall" in the book.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

In the IAABO manual it says the L officials may apply the A, B, C technique. We all know the difference between "may" & "shall" in the book.

The thing is, a lot of two-man games are done at levels that just don't need three. I'm not going to do a lesser game (and failing to cross over is just that, IMO) in order to press for a third official for the JVG games that really don't need them.

Even if I was doing a varsity game, I'd rather do my best to get the best angles and views than dump it for, essentially, political reasons.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The thing is, a lot of two-man games are done at levels that just don't need three. I'm not going to do a lesser game (and failing to cross over is just that, IMO) in order to press for a third official for the JVG games that really don't need them.

Even if I was doing a varsity game, I'd rather do my best to get the best angles and views than dump it for, essentially, political reasons.

And it's the slower games (JVG, for example) where it's easier to cross-over. The game just isn't as quick. When I filled in for an injured official on a JVG game a few weeks ago, I crossed over at least 5-6 times in the quarter I worked.

On a BV game, however, I'm lucky to find the time (timing) to get over 6 times a game. You pick your spots. Certainly, I'd rather have 3 officials. I'd also like to win the Powerball.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The thing is, a lot of two-man games are done at levels that just don't need three. I'm not going to do a lesser game (and failing to cross over is just that, IMO) in order to press for a third official for the JVG games that really don't need them.

Even if I was doing a varsity game, I'd rather do my best to get the best angles and views than dump it for, essentially, political reasons.

I neither work JVG nor was I speaking on anything at that level...

You lucky guys/gals down there have all of your V scheduled as 3 whistle, no?

Man, one of our big leagues containing 5A SUBURBAN schools went 2 person this year (economy). Those have been some of the toughest games that I've ever worked!!
If the City Public School league (which has had money problems way before the recent economy situation) can afford 3 then GD those rich schools with BMWs & Mercedes parked EVERYWHERE should be able to as well!

I've found a solution to the problem though, I will obtain the names of each school that plan to run 2s next year & simply block them in the Arbiter.
"Yeah, I have a cousin that attends that school, boss... YUP that school too... YES, that one as well"

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by tref

In the IAABO manual it says the L officials may apply the A, B, C technique. We all know the difference between "may" & "shall" in the book.

That's correct. It's an option, that should probably be pregamed. And it's a true rotation with the trail moving across the basketline when the lead comes ballside.

At least that's what it says in the manual. In reality, around these parts, nobody uses this option. Never. When the lead comes ball side to help out with post players, it's just for that one play, and it's his responsibility to eventually hustle back to the weak side.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

That's corect. It's an option, that should probably be pregamed. And it's a true rotation with the trail moving across the basketline when the lead comes ballside.

At least that's what it says in the manual. In reality, around these parts, nobody uses this option. Never. When the lead comes ball side to help out with post players, it's just for that one play, and it's his responsibility to eventually hustle back to the weak side.

Page 24 of the mechanics manual. It says nothing about the trail moving over.

Now, I thought I recalled a mechanic that talked about the Trail initiating a full switch with a trap up high on the lead's side; but I can't find it.

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Now, I thought I recalled a mechanic that talked about the Trail initiating a full switch with a trap up high on the lead's side; but I can't find it.

Page 43.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Page 43.

Thanks, I knew it was in there. This is the only complete rotation noted in IAABO mechanics, though. Nothing to do with the lead going strongside.

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Thanks, I knew it was in there. This is the only complete rotation noted in IAABO mechanics, though. Nothing to do with the lead going strongside.

That is my understanding. Since I started working college, it has been a big adjustment working the lead in the 2-person system we use in high school.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Page 24 of the mechanics manual. It says nothing about the trail moving over. Now, I thought I recalled a mechanic that talked about the Trail initiating a full switch with a trap up high on the lead's side; but I can't find it.

Thanks. You could be right. We don't use the trail initiated rotation either.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thanks. You could be right. We don't use the trail initiated rotation either.

I've never used it, either. If I get a 2 man game with an experienced partner, though, I'll pregame it and try it.

[26 Year Gap]

As a trail, I work the arc, but I don't go over the rainbow. And as lead, if I go ball side, I go back from whence I came in transition.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

That's correct. It's an option, that should probably be pregamed.

I will NOT be going strong side tonight!

I actually saw this sitch happen in a 5A boys game:
T opposite table & the L goes strong side, the ball shoots OOB in the corner (side/endline corner) tableside. L asks T for help... T looks at L like "are you kidding me, I'm 80+ feet away from this play." A/P arrow!
Of course it goes OOB in front of the defensive teams bench, who just happened to be down by 20+... not a good look! Pay the 3rd, football has 5.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tref

I will NOT be going strong side tonight!

I actually saw this sitch happen in a 5A boys game:
T opposite table & the L goes strong side, the ball shoots OOB in the corner (side/endline corner) tableside. L asks T for help... T looks at L like "are you kidding me, I'm 80+ feet away from this play." A/P arrow!
Of course it goes OOB in front of the defensive teams bench, who just happened to be down by 20+... not a good look! Pay the 3rd, football has 5.

The L should have been prepared to signal a direction on this. I know if I go strong side, I may have to get one that shoots out on the other side.

Look, if a team's down 20 and I have to guess, I know how I'm guessing on that one possession. And it's not with two thumbs...

[APG]

Originally Posted by tref

I will NOT be going strong side tonight!

I actually saw this sitch happen in a 5A boys game:
T opposite table & the L goes strong side, the ball shoots OOB in the corner (side/endline corner) tableside. L asks T for help... T looks at L like "are you kidding me, I'm 80+ feet away from this play." A/P arrow!
Of course it goes OOB in front of the defensive teams bench, who just happened to be down by 20+... not a good look! Pay the 3rd, football has 5.

That's a sacrifice going strong side in two man. As we all know, two person is a matter of sacrifices when we talk about positioning. I'll sacrifice the out of bounds play that doesn't happen too often for being in a better position to officiate.