Louisiana Officials Possible Strike?

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's one thing to fill in for a neighboring association when they simply get overwhelmed with games. But that's not what happened here. This is one group essentially telling the schools not to worry about this little dispute because they'll step up and fill in the gap.
Again, if they actually get a raise, it'll be in spite of the sh1tty behavior of jar's association. If they don't get a raise, it'll be largely because of the guys who didn't think it was important enough to take a small risk.

I can see that argument. But, and this is a point made by both JAR and RICH, how many people ACTUALLY left. I am assuming there are more than 7 assocations in LA ( I could be wrong) and only 4 walked. so since less than 1/2 of the associations walked, the 'majority' didn't support that action.
If the schools come up with a low offer and the majority of the associations decide NOT to sign on, and someone crosses, then I have an issue. Again, I think the Associations hold most of the cards here, but for the next contract, not this one.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I can see that argument. But, and this is a point made by both JAR and RICH, how many people ACTUALLY left. I am assuming there are more than 7 assocations in LA ( I could be wrong) and only 4 walked. so since less than 1/2 of the associations walked, the 'majority' didn't support that action.

4 out of 14

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by just another ref

4 out of 14

Thank you for clearing that up for me. Obviously, you and your associations are going to have some soul searching to do this offseason. If your associations vote to walk/hold out, I don't think ANYONE would blame you. If your associations get a huge raise, that is b/c of everyones efforts.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Thank you for clearing that up for me. Obviously, you and your associations are going to have some soul searching to do this offseason. If your associations vote to walk/hold out, I don't think ANYONE would blame you. If your associations get a huge raise, that is b/c of everyones efforts.

I disagree, I think. It'll be because of the efforts of 4 associations out of 14. The other 10 will be benefiting from the 4 who actually stood up for themselves.

And in the case of those who crossed the "picket line," they will have benefited in spite of their weak-kneed response.

[Judtech]

Yeah, this is probably where we differ. 4 out of 14 does not a threat make, IMO. It equals a temper tantrum. 10 out of 14 is a threat. (Or 8)

[Rich]

How do we know where the other associations stand? JAR's didn't even put it to a vote of the membership.

[APG]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

How do we know where the other associations stand? JAR's didn't even put it to a vote of the membership.

+1

For all we know, if the other associations followed JAR's and didn't even take a vote, that 4/14 might have been a lot more than that. I'm not sure why an association would decide not to take a vote on such an important issue.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

How do we know where the other associations stand? JAR's didn't even put it to a vote of the membership.

We don't know what an actual head count would show, but we do know where the associations stood. Apparently the majority of the spokesmen either went along with the majority viewpoint since it was the majority, thought a stoppage at this time would not be productive, or simply thought, as I do, that refusing to work after having an agreement to do so, was not an option.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I can see that argument. But, and this is a point made by both JAR and RICH, how many people ACTUALLY left. I am assuming there are more than 7 assocations in LA ( I could be wrong) and only 4 walked. so since less than 1/2 of the associations walked, the 'majority' didn't support that action.
If the schools come up with a low offer and the majority of the associations decide NOT to sign on, and someone crosses, then I have an issue. Again, I think the Associations hold most of the cards here, but for the next contract, not this one.

This is, IMO, the only potentially valid argument. jar notes his association didn't even vote on it; that tells me the leadership made a decision not to even let it come up. I wonder what percent of the associations that actually voted on it decided to walk.

The thing is, each association gets to make their own choice. And in my opinion, that choice should be honored by the neighboring associations.

I'm not sure how it works in LA, but here each association sets the price with the local school districts. There's a state minimum, but the local groups can pay more if they wish. If my local association decided to take a stand on something like this, and the group 90 minutes away offered to step in and help the schools out, I'd have a big problem with that.