Louisiana Officials Possible Strike?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I don't think that we can necessarily say that this is the wrong timing. This is when the annual convention is scheduled. We have no idea what may have occurred in previous conventions.

If next year's pay raise is voted down, and this is unacceptable, fine, just say "Good luck finding officials next year." Walking out at this point was not the thing to do, in my opinion.

Also, some say that the threat of the walkout is what caused some principals to vote against the pay raise who had previously intended to vote for it, before they heard this threat. Is this true, and how do these principals feel now? Who knows.

There is competition between associations. A couple of schools near my home told my assignor that if we would cover them through this, we would be rewarded with their business next season. The crossover turns out not to be necessary but I'm hopeful the switch, which had already been discussed, will still take place.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

There is competition between associations.

We have this with spring, summer, and fall, AAU tournaments. There are a lot of "mini assigners" out there who only assign AAU tournaments, and each have their own little group of officials who work for them. AAU tournament organizers were trying to get the lowest fees possible by pitting the "mini assigners" against each other.

Our state IAABO board tried to get this all under the IAABO "umbrella", that is coming up with a standard fees statewide, and only allowing IAABO certified officials to work AAU games if the games were under this IAABO "umbrella". We made some headway, but not much due to the fact that officials are viewed as independent contractors, and some officials, and some AAU organizers, threatened to sue based on unfair labor practices, like restraint of trade. This scared our state IAABO board, so they backed off, and tabled it for another time.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

There is competition between associations. A couple of schools near my home told my assignor that if we would cover them through this, we would be rewarded with their business next season.

Wow!

Nowayinhell can you call something like that "competition". That's nothing but freaking backstabbing. No wonder you guys are only getting $36/game if something like that is fairly prevalant. You're just screwing each other and in the end you're all paying for doing so.

No wonder the LHSAA has been getting away with underpaying for so many years.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Wow!

Nowayinhell can you call something like that "competition". That's nothing but freaking backstabbing. No wonder you guys are only getting $36/game if something like that is fairly prevalant. You're just screwing each other and in the end you're all paying for doing so.

No wonder the LHSAA has been getting away with underpaying for so many years.

I've seen this in other states. Associations poach schools from other associations. Miserable practice. I much prefer working as a true independent contractor and working whatever schools I want to work.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I've seen this in other states. Associations poach schools from other associations. Miserable practice. I much prefer working as a true independent contractor and working whatever schools I want to work.

How is it poaching? We don't call them, they call us. Are we supposed to turn them down? I prefer the independent contractor route as well, but there are no varsity assignments here that way. I called only varsity and jv around here for that reason. Finally almost all of that was turned over to associations, too.
It was register or quit at that point.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Wow!

Nowayinhell can you call something like that "competition". That's nothing but freaking backstabbing. No wonder you guys are only getting $36/game if something like that is fairly prevalant. You're just screwing each other and in the end you're all paying for doing so.

No wonder the LHSAA has been getting away with underpaying for so many years.

It's backstabbing to hire the people who would work when others wouldn't?
This was the principal's suggestion, not the assignors. Schools switch from one association to the other all the time. This is not due to being solicited, nor promised anything. (as far as I know) What I hear when a school switches is not that they switched because they like the new group, but that they disliked the old.

Question: Which officials do you like least/hate most?

Most common answer: The ones that called the last game we lost.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jurassic referee

wow!

Nowayinhell can you call something like that "competition". That's nothing but freaking backstabbing. No wonder you guys are only getting $36/game if something like that is fairly prevalant. You're just screwing each other and in the end you're all paying for doing so.

No wonder the lhsaa has been getting away with underpaying for so many years.

+ 100

[just another ref]

How can the switch of a school from one association to another have anything to do with money, when everybody gets paid the same?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

How can the switch of a school from one association to another have anything to do with money, when everybody gets paid the same?

Are you saying everyone is paid the same all over the state or a region?

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are you saying everyone is paid the same all over the state or a region?

Peace

The whole state

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The whole state

And that seems to be the problem if you ask me.

Peace