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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 12:31pm
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This thing is taking a lot of turns. Got a call yesterday morning to go call some games today out of our normal area. Got another call an hour later saying there were threats of trouble if we went out of area so we weren't going to go.
This morning got another call saying forget the threats, some other guys called out of area last night, so no big deal, got another long distance assignment for today. Got another call a few minutes ago saying there's a meeting going on now in which they're trying to say that any games played with officials that crossed lines won't count, so the deal's off again.
I bet guys who live near the border of another state belong to the other state associations. Or, if they don't, they will.
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 12:47pm
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This thing is taking a lot of turns. Got a call yesterday morning to go call some games today out of our normal area. Got another call an hour later saying there were threats of trouble if we went out of area so we weren't going to go.
This morning got another call saying forget the threats, some other guys called out of area last night, so no big deal, got another long distance assignment for today. Got another call a few minutes ago saying there's a meeting going on now in which they're trying to say that any games played with officials that crossed lines won't count, so the deal's off again.
I'm confused. You were going to cross?
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 01:07pm
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This thing is taking a lot of turns. Got a call yesterday morning to go call some games today out of our normal area. Got another call an hour later saying there were threats of trouble if we went out of area so we weren't going to go.
This morning got another call saying forget the threats, some other guys called out of area last night, so no big deal, got another long distance assignment for today. Got another call a few minutes ago saying there's a meeting going on now in which they're trying to say that any games played with officials that crossed lines won't count, so the deal's off again.
You planning on scabbing, huh? Make sure nobody is able to hang you up by your belt, then.
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 01:14pm
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I'm confused. You were going to cross?
My question also. Why would any referee undermine the attempt to get better compensation when the pay is ranked 50 out of 50? Do you feel that you and other referees are currently being compensated fairly?
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My question also. Why would any referee undermine the attempt to get better compensation when the pay is ranked 50 out of 50? Do you feel that you and other referees are currently being compensated fairly?
Give him a break. Maybe he just likes to call out of his area.
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You planning on scabbing, huh? Make sure nobody is able to hang you up by your belt, then.
There could be other factors involved....unfortunately. If his association is directing him to go somewhere, he might not have much choice but to go, other than making up an excuse to decline the games.

That's the problem when you get into situations like this and different officiating associations in a state with maybe different viewpoints are involved. Hopefully every official in each association was allowed their say and the majority rules, but there's a real world out there also.

Imo it's a no-brainer. If they don't do something, they'll be working for $36 a freaking game ten years from now. And also imo, unless they do do something about it, they really have no right to b!tch.
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There could be other factors involved....unfortunately.
Which is why I asked.
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There could be other factors involved....unfortunately. If his association is directing him to go somewhere, he might not have much choice but to go, other than making up an excuse to decline the games.

That's the problem when you get into situations like this and different officiating associations in a state with maybe different viewpoints are involved. Hopefully every official in each association was allowed their say and the majority rules, but there's a real world out there also.

Imo it's a no-brainer. If they don't do something, they'll be working for $36 a freaking game ten years from now. And also imo, unless they do do something about it, they really have no right to b!tch.
I know. I was just looking for an excuse to get in a cheap belt joke.
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Give him a break. Maybe he just likes to call out of his area.
Holy CRAP that's funny.
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I know. I was just looking for an excuse to get in a cheap belt joke.
But, his belt might be expensive...
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 01:37pm
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But, his belt might be expensive...
I kinda picture JAR wearing a belt with a buckle about the size of a hubcap off a Ford F150 pick-up.
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 01:39pm
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I know. I was just looking for an excuse to get in a cheap belt joke.
Hell, if they're still using mid-80's 3-man mechanics, of course they'll still be wearing belts.
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 01:42pm
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Red lanyards. Silver whistles. Wind suit pants. White socks. Collared shirts. Those sneakers some guy posted on here a couple days ago.

Did I miss anything?
You forgot belts. How could you forget the belts?
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You forgot belts. How could you forget the belts?
With wind suit pants?
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On a smaller scale there is an AAU outfit in northern suburbs of Chicago, Joy of the Game that has their own facility, four courts, workout area etc. It's well attended with instruction, AAU teams, and constant tournaments all year round. The owner is notoriously cheap, paying 25 a game which is low for our area and really has no respect for officials. On occassion if you had a four game set and third was cancelled yet you had to hang around for fourth game, he'd try and weasel out of paying for that game despite already receiving tourney fees from teams. They have now gone to paying 22.50 a game. Sadly, there are officials who will drive a long way to take the games. As you can imagine, the officiating is poor, and when they and try and slip in a stop clock tourney to attract more teams, this typically adds at least an hour extra to a four game set, no extra pay.

I always felt slimy when taking games there, and only would if I had nothing better to do. Glad they lowered fees as they'll never hear my whistle there again.

That said, it's basic economics, some guys will work for that.

Have some pride.

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