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Old Fri Jan 21, 2011, 12:47pm
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Rebound - Back Court?

I had this the other day, Shot by Home team A1, A2 jumps in a crowd a taps the rebound into BC. A1 runs back and retrieves it.

Back court or not? A2 knew he was throwing it back toward the 3-point line, but he never held onto the ball, but he did control where it went.

I didn't call BC because it was on a rebound.
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Old Fri Jan 21, 2011, 12:49pm
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I had this the other day, Shot by Home team A1, A2 jumps in a crowd a taps the rebound into BC. A1 runs back and retrieves it.

Back court or not? A2 knew he was throwing it back toward the 3-point line, but he never held onto the ball, but he did control where it went.

I didn't call BC because it was on a rebound.
Did he THROW the ball (PC ==> BC violation) or BAT the ball (No PC ==> no BC violation)?

Would you have granted a TO at the moment A2 had the ball (if the coach was quick enough to request it and you were quick enough get the message and assess the situation)?
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I had this the other day, Shot by Home team A1, A2 jumps in a crowd a taps the rebound into BC. A1 runs back and retrieves it.

Back court or not? A2 knew he was throwing it back toward the 3-point line, but he never held onto the ball, but he did control where it went.

I didn't call BC because it was on a rebound.
Judgment call... those facts lead me to believe t/c was re-established JMO
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Player control is required at this point to establish TC. PC is obtained by holding or dribbling; if he held it, even briefly, it's a violation. If he did not, it's not.
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Old Fri Jan 21, 2011, 12:51pm
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Judgment call... those facts lead me to believe t/c was re-established JMO
Controlling where it went isn't relevant, but if indeed he "threw" it rather than "batted" it, you're correct that it's a violation.
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Unless you deemed there was control before the ball got into the backcourt, then you cannot have a violation. Based on your description it seems like you got it right. Then again I did not see the play to judge for sure. But if the ball is being tapped around that cannot be a BC violation unless you clearly think control was first established somewhere.

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Old Fri Jan 21, 2011, 12:52pm
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Player control is required at this point to establish TC. PC is obtained by holding or dribbling; if he held it, even briefly, it's a violation. If he did not, it's not.
A1s attempt is unsuccessful, A5 taps the ball into the basket. Did A5 have p/c (Team A t/c) on the put back?

Nevermind a tap on a try & a tap during a rebound are two entirely different plays. My badd.
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I had this the other day, Shot by Home team A1, A2 jumps in a crowd a taps the rebound into BC. A1 runs back and retrieves it.

Back court or not? A2 knew he was throwing it back toward the 3-point line, but he never held onto the ball, but he did control where it went.

I didn't call BC because it was on a rebound.
Controlling where the ball goes and having player/team control are not the same. It's your call. Did he have control or not? Your description of the play says no.
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Old Fri Jan 21, 2011, 01:00pm
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I would not have granted a TO on the rebound/tip/tap.
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I would not have granted a TO on the rebound/tip/tap.
Then there was no PC, so no BC violation.
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Old Fri Jan 21, 2011, 01:18pm
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Had that situation last night. I would describe my play as a tap towards midcourt. I considered it no control and thus I had no violation. My partner did have to explain the rule to the coach at the next dead ball.
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