Non Varsity coach bench position

[tref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

If you're allowing him to stand, you're giving him a box. I, personally, don't care as I only work games with coaching boxes. But that's what the state (for whatever reason) decided.

Did Rich just BigTyme us? lol

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by oldschool

She stated she remained in contact with the bench while moving. The few comments were not so bad it was just that she said those while moving from one end of bench to the other and was standing at the time.

I told her I would not mind her moving if she was coaching her kids.

She remained in contact with the the bench while standing and moving along the bench? She a contortionist?

Coaching her kids is good. Comments made to you are a judgment call. And if you're doing your job, you'll probably never notice the coach moving unless those comments do bring her to your attention.

The movement is irrelevant. Deal with the comments.

JMHO.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tref

Did Rich just BigTyme us? lol

Nope. I'd be happy to work a lower level game on a night off, if asked. I'm just saying that I have no personal stake in it on most nights is all. Sorry if it came off otherwise - I didn't mean it to.

[Adam]

To me, if she's moving up and down the bench, she's using the box. It sounds like she's using a loophole not intended by the state's decision not to grant the coaching box at sub-varsity levels. I would check with your state rules interpreter.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by oldschool

Coach would get up and move from one end of bench to the other with the offense and defense.

The rule says that they have to remain seated. Getting up and moving is not remaining seated. Being in contact with the bench means nothing. One could be standing and still touching the bench.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Cobra

The rule says that they have to remain seated. Getting up and moving is not remaining seated. Being in contact with the bench means nothing. One could be standing and still touching the bench.

There are several reasons why a coach is permitted to stand even if they don't have use of the box....whether they've lost it due to a T or if the state doesn't utilize it. I don't know of anything that requires them to return to the exact same chair after legally being on their feet. If they're doing it often, however, they are certainly at risk of an official viewing it as an infraction of the coaching rules.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

All other levels must remain in contact with bench.

Not even to to spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

Not in our state. Coaching box is only for head coach at varsity level. All other levels must remain in contact with bench in WI

Just curious; I'm assuming this is some sort of alteration of the coaching box rules. Are they allowed to stand whenever they want, just so long as they are physically touching their bench?

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Just curious; I'm assuming this is some sort of alteration of the coaching box rules. Are they allowed to stand whenever they want, just so long as they are physically touching their bench?

No, there is no coaching box at all. Everyone must remain seated.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Cobra

No, there is no coaching box at all. Everyone must remain seated.

Not even to to spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Not even to to spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member?

All the exceptions are in play, of course. There is no coaching box in the lower levels, so the rules (as written) for such games apply.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

All the exceptions are in play, of course. There is no coaching box in the lower levels, so the rules (as written) for such games apply.

Okay, I didn't know if the word "contact" was the operational key here. Can the HC stand (during non-approved times) as long as he is still touching the bench?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Okay, I didn't know if the word "contact" was the operational key here. Can the HC stand (during non-approved times) as long as he is still touching the bench?

No. The rules are as they would be absent the optional coaching box. There is nothing special about WI's rules here -- they've just chosen to only give the optional box to varsity head coaches.

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

No. The rules are as they would be absent the optional coaching box. There is nothing special about WI's rules here -- they've just chosen to only give the optional box to varsity head coaches.

I am quite happy to be following Ohio's rules on this one. I wonder if they make high school teachers stay seated while teaching as well? As JR stated earlier, it is about the comments, not the physical position (unless in WI -- and, likely, several other states).....

Being forced to sit all game long would have shortened my coaching career by 25 years....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

I am quite happy to be following Ohio's rules on this one. I wonder if they make high school teachers stay seated while teaching as well? As JR stated earlier, it is about the comments, not the physical position (unless in WI -- and, likely, several other states).....

Being forced to sit all game long would have shortened my coaching career by 25 years....

I know several areas like Wisconsin that have either banned or restricted usage of the coaching box. And in all cases it was never because of coach's coaching. It was because of coach's officiating. A smart coach can always get his point across to us without putting on a show.