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Old Fri Jan 14, 2011, 02:48pm
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Just wondering about a non varsity coach who moves from one end of bench to the other. Stated they had contact at all times. Would you allow this? I had a problem when she moved and made a comment to me about a call. Hopefully you can visualize this movement dictated by ofense and defense. Let me know your thoughts.
Never worry about head coaches moving around in their coaching box while coaching. Never worry about what any assistant coach does either if they basically stay on the bench and coach.

Deal with any unsporting comments from the bench according to your own personal tolerance level whether they're from a head coach or any other bench personnel.

The comments are your problem, not the movement.
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Old Fri Jan 14, 2011, 03:03pm
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Never worry about head coaches moving around in their coaching box while coaching. Never worry about what any assistant coach does either if they basically stay on the bench and coach.

Deal with any unsporting comments from the bench according to your own personal tolerance level whether they're from a head coach or any other bench personnel.

The comments are your problem, not the movement.
Exactly right. I had to shut down an assistant coach in the first 2 minutes of my game last night. The head coach was up coaching and the assistant was loud and obnoxious from the bench. Told him I'd talk to the head guy all night long, but I wasn't going to listen to him from the bench. Considered going through the head coach, but he was probably 10 feet away and it was just easier to deal with the assistant directly.

Final score was something like 80-31. Tough game to work as the winning team had a full court press on for almost the entire game and the losing team started ratcheting up the physicality the more frustrated they got.
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Old Fri Jan 14, 2011, 03:05pm
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Just to clarify. Non Varsity have no coaching box in our state. Coach would get up and move from one end of bench to the other with the offense and defense. I was just wondering if this should be allowed. She stated she remained in contact with the bench while moving. The few comments were not so bad it was just that she said those while moving from one end of bench to the other and was standing at the time. I told her I would not mind her moving if she was coaching her kids. Just looking for some input to sort this out if it ever occurs again. Thanks
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Old Fri Jan 14, 2011, 03:20pm
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She stated she remained in contact with the bench while moving. The few comments were not so bad it was just that she said those while moving from one end of bench to the other and was standing at the time.

I told her I would not mind her moving if she was coaching her kids.
She remained in contact with the the bench while standing and moving along the bench? She a contortionist?

Coaching her kids is good. Comments made to you are a judgment call. And if you're doing your job, you'll probably never notice the coach moving unless those comments do bring her to your attention.

The movement is irrelevant. Deal with the comments.

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Old Fri Jan 14, 2011, 05:47pm
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Coach would get up and move from one end of bench to the other with the offense and defense.
The rule says that they have to remain seated. Getting up and moving is not remaining seated. Being in contact with the bench means nothing. One could be standing and still touching the bench.
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Old Fri Jan 14, 2011, 06:54pm
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The rule says that they have to remain seated. Getting up and moving is not remaining seated. Being in contact with the bench means nothing. One could be standing and still touching the bench.
There are several reasons why a coach is permitted to stand even if they don't have use of the box....whether they've lost it due to a T or if the state doesn't utilize it. I don't know of anything that requires them to return to the exact same chair after legally being on their feet. If they're doing it often, however, they are certainly at risk of an official viewing it as an infraction of the coaching rules.
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Coach would get up and move from one end of bench to the other with the offense and defense.

She stated she remained in contact with the bench while moving.
How can she get up and still be in contact with the bench?

Put her a$$ on the bench and tell her to stay there.
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Old Sun Jan 16, 2011, 06:58pm
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How can she get up and still be in contact with the bench?
Arm touching the bench.
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Old Sun Jan 16, 2011, 08:10pm
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Arm touching the bench.
What difference would that make? The rule says she must remain seated.

I've kinda suspected it from your past posts but you just proved you don't know the difference between your azz and your arm.
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How can she get up and still be in contact with the bench?
Haven't you ever played Twister?

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Old Sun Jan 16, 2011, 08:15pm
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NFHS rules don't say the head coach has to be in contact with the bench. It says,

Bench personnel shall not:
Stand in the team bench area while the clock is running or is stopped, and must remain seated

If 10-5 isn't in play, then the coach has to remain SEATED except for exception 10-4-4b, c, & d.
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