Rule 4-22 (Goaltending)

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

2. If the violation is at a team’s own basket, no points can be scored, and the
ball is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-ofbounds spot nearest the violation.

Exactly. I read "the violation" as either goaltending or basket interference, since nothing is telling me that we're only talking about b.i. This tells me that offensive goaltending can indeed exist.

My end game is to find something that says that the offense can only commit basket interference, and not goaltending. I've yet to find such words.

Also, I find this thread to be offensive.

Then this thread is now rated TV-14.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

This tells me that offensive goaltending can indeed exist.

Yes, but it's very rare, like the Abominable Snowman.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Yes, but it's very rare, like the Abominable Snowman.

Does this mean that we can call offensive goaltending violations, "Bumbles?" Do they bounce, too?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

My end game is to find something that says that the offense can only commit basket interference, and not goaltending.

Why doesn't that surprise me?

Did you ever think of checking the case book?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Did you ever think of checking the case book?

I refer you, Woody, to the last sentence of the OP.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

bainsey, it's right their [sic] in black and white.

Not to mention blue. Got it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I refer you, Woody, to the last sentence of the OP.

I refer you, bainsey, to case book play 9.12SitB as cited above. Note that it's in a section labelled GOALTENDING. Are you sure you didn't really not want to find sumthin' like that, sumthin' that woulda screwed up your end game?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I refer you, bainsey, to case book play 9.12SitB as cited above.

Saw that, not applicable. I'm looking for offensive goaltending on a field goal. Since this case is on a free throw, the lane violation is the call, not any goaltending.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Saw that, not applicable. I'm looking for offensive goaltending on a field goal. Since this case is on a free throw, the lane violation is the call, not any goaltending.

Then look at NFHS rule 7-5-2(b) which states:
"Designated out-of-bounds spot throw-in nearest the violation:
b) after GOALTENDING or basket interference by the OFFENSIVE team, as in 9-12 Penalty 2."

Let me know if that doesn't meet your approval also...and I'll find something else for you. Hell, I don't mind doing what you should have done before starting this stoopid thread.

[bainsey]

Thanks, JR, that helps. But really, haven't you learned in your travels the bees/honey/vinegar analogy?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I refer you, Woody, to the last sentence of the OP.

Who's Woody?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Exactly. I read "the violation" as either goaltending or basket interference, since nothing is telling me that we're only talking about b.i. This tells me that offensive goaltending can indeed exist.

My end game is to find something that says that the offense can only commit basket interference, and not goaltending. I've yet to find such words.

bainsey, it's right their in black and white. He even highlighted it for you.

9-12 Penalties
2. If the violation is at a team’s own basket, no points can be scored, and the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-ofbounds spot nearest the violation.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

bainsey, it's right their in black and white. He even highlighted it for you.

9-12 Penalties
2. If the violation is at a team’s own basket, no points can be scored, and the ball is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-ofbounds spot nearest the violation.

Plus case book play 9.12SitB....plus all the different rules that say a "player" ......rule 4-22, 9-12, 10-3-9,etc.....there's 10 players on the court.

Another end game that ended before it started.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

My end game is to find something that says that the offense can only commit basket interference, and not goaltending. I've yet to find such words.

You won't find anything because the offense can commit both goaltending and basket interference.