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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 12:29pm
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I've changed my call when I was wrong. Same thing happened to us Monday night, A1 and A2 fighting for the ball, we did a no call waiting for them to figure out they were on the same team.

But last week, I did a Block call, realized I was wrong, defender had position and changed it to a Charge.

Getting the call right is more important. I think.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 12:38pm
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I've changed my call when I was wrong. Same thing happened to us Monday night, A1 and A2 fighting for the ball, we did a no call waiting for them to figure out they were on the same team.

But last week, I did a Block call, realized I was wrong, defender had position and changed it to a Charge.

Getting the call right is more important. I think.
Changing a block call to a charge is a little different in my book. Probably wouldn't do that.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 01:23pm
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But last week, I did a Block call, realized I was wrong, defender had position and changed it to a Charge.
...whew, is there an uglier changed call in all of basketball?
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 01:36pm
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But last week, I did a Block call, realized I was wrong, defender had position and changed it to a Charge.
But, let me understand this. It is permissible to do this, but it just looks ugly.
But if your partner had signaled the charge, you are not allowed to change yours, is that right?
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 02:03pm
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But, let me understand this. It is permissible to do this, but it just looks ugly.
But if your partner had signaled the charge, you are not allowed to change yours, is that right?
Will you get over that already!!!

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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 02:22pm
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But, let me understand this. It is permissible to do this, but it just looks ugly.
But if your partner had signaled the charge, you are not allowed to change yours, is that right?
Don Quixote', only if you honestly made a mistake. Otherwise it's called lying.
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Old Fri Jan 07, 2011, 12:50am
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So two Team A members are "scrumming with the ball" and you call it a jump.

What is worse explaining that you messed up? or trying to explain how they lost the ball on ajump when Team B was no where in the play and then you T the A coach up because we cant get it right, afraid to admit a mistake, or appear to be too arrogant to listen?

and how do you explain to CoachB he got a jump ball and lost the arrow for the next time he legitimately does tie it up?

R is setting up the crew for failure. How does R react to Coach A when he asks but you saw two team A players with the ball and allowed partner to get it wrong? (Especially when he comes in and tells you) Everyone in the gym knows what your talking about. He loese all credabbility with both coaches because we cant get it right. Coach B is no dummy and will be wondering what else we are afraid to fix.

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Old Fri Jan 07, 2011, 01:08am
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Instead of one mistake, it becomes a cluster**** by depriving Team A of the ball, giving Team B the ball, AND making Team B use its arrow.

I don't understand what your R is saying. By not changing the call with the additional information, all he's done is add more "egg" to yours and the entire crew's face. With his line of thinking, he wouldn't want you to change an out of bounds call if he clearly had information that was contrary to your call.

If I was in your situation, as soon as my partner(s) give me that information, I'm blowing my whistle and changing the call.

Me: "Jump ball...Team B's ball"
P: "We've got two Team A players with the ball."
Me: "You're right..." *Tweet* A's ball

Doing it quickly like that wouldn't give this R a chance to change the call since he's all about "egg" on people's face and I'm assuming he wouldn't want any on his face.
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Old Fri Jan 07, 2011, 11:14am
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I appreciate the thoughts, guys.

The crux of this -- beyond the error -- is I put too much power into the R. That won't happen again.

Actually, it didn't, as I had a game yesterday where the R was going to apply a rule incorrectly (that's another thread), but I held firm with the correct application, and got it right.
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