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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 01:53pm
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I am little tired of people saying the "R" said I shouldn't do something so we didn't. Grow a pair and make a call...or in this case change "your" call. When the game starts we are a crew and not a R, U1 (U2). Make the right call, not the popular or easy call.
I agree. I had two games where I was not the R this season and the R made a crucial bad call/decision in both of those games (not the same R). These were decisions that could change the outcome of the game so I stepped in and corrected it. They didn't like it but I had the rule book to back me up. Whether I am the R or U (U1 or U2) in a game, my theory is once the jump ball is over, we are equals on the floor and it is our responsibility to get the calls right. If someone needs to correct me then they need to do that - I am human, I am going to miss a call now and then. This "pride" thing is for the birds

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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 12:51pm
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...We talked about it more at halftime, and he really didn't want me with egg on my face by changing my call. Honestly, I don't care. I feel the reason we communicate is so we get it right. Had I gone with an inadvertant whistle, the worst that could happen would be a brief explanation to Team B's coach that his team never had the ball in the first place. I probably would have done a better job by "fixing it."

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I don't how changing a wrong call on the spot would leave you with any more egg on your face that actually sticking with an obviously wrong call.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 01:20pm
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There's a loose ball in the lane and "scrum." I see a tie up, wait a second or two, and call the held ball. Arrow points to Team B (who is on defense).

The R comes to me to communicate that actually, two players from Team A were fighting for the ball. I told him, in that case, I have no problem changing my call to an inadvertant whistle. The R says I shouldn't, because I already signaled the held ball. He's the R, so I relent and stick with my call. Team B's ball.
If he thought you shouldn't change it, why in the world would he feel the need to come tell you about it at that time?
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 01:23pm
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If he thought you shouldn't change it, why in the world would he feel the need to come tell you about it at that time?
Yeah, that too.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 07:25pm
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If he thought you shouldn't change it, why in the world would he feel the need to come tell you about it at that time?
That was my first reaction when I read the OP. If he's 100% sure it was 2 players from the same team and you aren't 100%, then get it right.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 06:59pm
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I'm the T and U, two man system.

There's a loose ball in the lane and "scrum." I see a tie up, wait a second or two, and call the held ball. Arrow points to Team B (who is on defense).

The R comes to me to communicate that actually, two players from Team A were fighting for the ball. I told him, in that case, I have no problem changing my call to an inadvertant whistle. The R says I shouldn't, because I already signaled the held ball. He's the R, so I relent and stick with my call. Team B's ball.

We talked about it more at halftime, and he really didn't want me with egg on my face by changing my call. Honestly, I don't care. I feel the reason we communicate is so we get it right. Had I gone with an inadvertant whistle, the worst that could happen would be a brief explanation to Team B's coach that his team never had the ball in the first place. I probably would have done a better job by "fixing it."

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Baisey - a long time ago Frank Scagliotta (hate name dropping) said when you make a mistake blow your whistle, tap your chest and say "My mistake" and give the ball to the right team.

At that point everybody sees that you have admitted your mistake and we are know going to continue the game.

As far as what the "R" thinks - who made him god ???????????
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