.3 Foul Question

[Spence]

.3 seconds left. A1 catches the lob throw-in and is immediately fouled.

Do I ignore the foul unless I determine it to be flagrant or intentional? Is the ball dead as soon as it's deemed that A1 caught the ball instead of tapping it?

[rsl]

No rule makes the ball dead here. Call the foul as you would any other time until the horn blows to make the ball dead.

[Adam]

If the foul happens after he releases a shot (assuming he caught it first), it's a dead ball contact situation (ignore or go with a T or flagrant).
The rule says they can't catch or shoot, it doesn't say they can't catch and be fouled trying to shoot.

[Camron Rust]

Exactly. A1, seeing and anticipating the imminent contact, may have grabbed the ball instead of tapping it as a result. B shouldn't be able to foul to prevent A1 from tapping the ball.

The ball doesn't become dead until 0.3 seconds after A1 touches/grabs the ball.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Spence

.3 seconds left. A1 catches the lob throw-in and is immediately fouled.

If Team A is in the bonus, A1 shoots a one and one. If Team A is in the double bonus, A1 shoots two free throws.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

If Team A is in the bonus, A1 shoots a one and one. If Team A is in the double bonus, A1 shoots two free throws.

Disagree. Nothing says A1 can't start the shooting motion in that amount of time.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Disagree. Nothing says A1 can't start the shooting motion in that amount of time.

Not the way I am reading 5.2.5 C

[bob jenkins]

NCAA is different. Ignore the contact unless I or F.

AR 132

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Disagree. Nothing says A1 can't start the shooting motion in that amount of time.

If he catches it, he cannot shoot it and have the goal count. So, if he is fouled, he cannot be considered to be fouled in the act of shooting. And the OP said 'catch'.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Disagree. Nothing says A1 can't start the shooting motion in that amount of time.

I don't know how much clearer you can get than 5-2-5...

When play is resumed with a throw-in or free throw and threetenths (.3) of a second or less remains on the clock, a player may not gain control of the ball and try for a field goal. In this situation only a tap could score.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by asdf

I don't know how much clearer you can get than 5-2-5...

When play is resumed with a throw-in or free throw and threetenths (.3) of a second or less remains on the clock, a player may not gain control of the ball and try for a field goal. In this situation only a tap could score.

Piling on?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Disagree. Nothing says A1 can't start the shooting motion in that amount of time.

Agree IF the shooting motion is a tap. The player can be fouled in the act of tapping and be awarded 2 shots.

All doubters see NFHS rules 4-41-1,5&6 and case book play 5.2.5SitB

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Agree IF the shooting motion is a tap. The player can be fouled in the act of tapping and be awarded 2 shots.

All doubters see NFHS rules 4-41-1,5&6 and case book play 5.2.5SitB

Question referred specifically to a player catching the ball. Tap was not an option.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Question referred specifically to a player catching the ball. Tap was not an option.

Someone might judge that the player was trying to tap the ball when fouled but grabbed it as a result of getting fouled. Hmmm.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Question referred specifically to a player catching the ball. Tap was not an option.

That's got nuthin' to do with Snaq's statement. Snaq said "Nothing says A can't start the shooting motion in that amount of time.". That statement is true IF the shooting motion is a tap. It isn't true if the shooting motion is a try.