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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 09:13pm
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Contact lens issue with a T

Another first.

2 minutes into the game, #12 Red inbounding ball on the endline. As I'm about to bounce the ball to him I notice him pulling his eye lid / rubbing his eye, not looking at me. I step in and ask if there is a problem. "Yea, my contact just rolled in back of my eye and it won't come down". I give him 10-15 seconds with no luck....tweet, "coach I need a sub for #12" Sub comes in, life goes on, all is good.

5 minutes later #12 Red back in the game with his contact lens issue taken care of. #12 Red drives the lane is hammered, I got the foul, and report to the table. As my partner is about to bounce the ball to #12, we have the shooter again playing with his eye. Again I ask if there is a problem, this time he pulls the contact out, shows me that it is wrinkled up. he proceeds to tear the contact in half and throw it on the court.

I tell my partner to hold up for a second as I motion for #12 to follow me to the bench. I ask the coach for a sub......and here it comes from the coach "Why!!!". Coach he is not properly equiped with only one lens. Coach proceeds to tell me I can't do that and to show him in the rule book where I can remove his player. I tell him again #12 is no longer properly equipped, he started the game with two contact lenses.

The coach then proceeded to tell me that I was the one that needed the contact lenses, so I won't miss the calls I've been missing....tweet....T.

5 days into the high school season........off to a good start.
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 09:18pm
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The contact lens is not your issue. The player decides if he can play with one lens, not the official. The "properly equipped" rule has nothing to do with eyewear.
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 09:19pm
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I tell my partner to hold up for a second as I motion for #12 to follow me to the bench. I ask the coach for a sub......and here it comes from the coach "Why!!!". Coach he is not properly equiped with only one lens. Coach proceeds to tell me I can't do that and to show him in the rule book where I can remove his player. I tell him again #12 is no longer properly equipped, he started the game with two contact lenses.

The coach then proceeded to tell me that I was the one that needed the contact lenses, so I won't miss the calls I've been missing....tweet....T.

5 days into the high school season........off to a good start.
Bull$hit like this is what give officials a bad name.

I hope the coach marks you off. I know I sure would.
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 09:33pm
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Coach was correct to be angry. You improperly applied the rule. There is no issue here with being legally equipped.

If the player was wearing goggles and decided to take them off, are you pulling him out of the game as well?
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 09:35pm
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You didn't have him pick it up off the court? That is probably the only thing I would have done. The rest of that is, well, plumbing.
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 11:01pm
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You didn't have him pick it up off the court? That is probably the only thing I would have done. The rest of that is, well, plumbing.
There we go with the "plumbing" slam again.
Look, where would you be without plumbers like me? Why not say, "The rest of that is, well, environmental chemistry." Now that would make some sense.

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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 11:09pm
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There we go with the "plumbing" slam again.
Look, where would you be without plumbers like me? Why not say, "The rest of that is, well, environmental chemistry." Now that would make some sense.

(Remember, everytime you flush, you put food on my family's table!)
Allow me to apologize for all of us. Nothing wrong with being a plumber unless you decide to do it on the basketball court.

On behave of officials everywhere, thank you for your service to our pipes!
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 11:24pm
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Allow me to apologize for all of us. Nothing wrong with being a plumber unless you decide to do it on the basketball court.

On behave of officials everywhere, thank you for your service to our pipes!
P.S. I was, after all, the one of our three-man crew to pick up what appeared to be that portion of a Baby Ruth or large Tootsie Roll off the court two or three years ago, only to find out it wasn't of an edible substance. Cf. Referee magazine, July 2008, p.82. Varsity coach at that site reminded me of it just last night.
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That's my line. Also, every time you flush, an angel gets her plumber's license.
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 09:39pm
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Bull$hit like this is what give officials a bad name.

I hope the coach marks you off. I know I sure would.
+1

I would as a partner, too. OOO

Unless this guy is pulling our chains.
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 09:48pm
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I would as a partner, too. OOO

Unless this guy is pulling our chains.
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 09:57pm
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 10:05pm
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Not pulling anyones chain here......just learning as I go along in this great game of life. It's always nice to see the different opinions out there.

Even though 3-7 Safety Concerns, allows me to use my judgement for any item that constitutes a safety concern.

So I have a child here that needs two eyes to drive, read, go to school, etc.etc., I now have this player closing one eye while trying to shoot or catch a pass or run, in my opinion this was a safety concern.

In you opinion, I might have been a little OOO, or Bull$hit. I'm sorry that we don't agree. But this was a first for me, I did not have time to think this over. I reacted to what I felt was a safety concern.

I could just see it now: The Judge "So, Mr. Referee you saw #12 remove his contact, close his eye and try to play, just before a pass, that he did not see crushed him in the face breaking his nose....and you felt this was not a safety concern? I'm sorry but you are still liable for his his injuries."
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 10:15pm
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This is not a safety issue, period. As one who wears contact lenses, I can tell you it's possible to play with one. Hell, I might or might not know that it's possible to drive with one.

My suggestion: learn from this one and don't do it next time.

You have no idea what the strength of his prescription is, so you have no idea whether he can play with one lens or not.
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 10:51pm
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This is not a safety issue, period. As one who wears contact lenses, I can tell you it's possible to play with one. Hell, I might or might not know that it's possible to drive with one.

My suggestion: learn from this one and don't do it next time.

You have no idea what the strength of his prescription is, so you have no idea whether he can play with one lens or not.
Agreed. I also wear contacts with a pretty strong prescription and I can function for a short while with just one. Certainly long enough to shoot a couple of free throws.

I actually lost both lenses during a wrestling match in middle school and managed to finish the match.
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