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So tomegun, just to clear things up here...
Are you saying that there are things we, as officials, can learn from this horrible situation that will help us improve in our avocation? Or are you saying this mess was somehow the officials' fault - especially the T? If you are saying the first - I would agree with you wholeheartedly. But if you are even remotely thinking the second, then you really are "crapping" on a fellow official. |
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I do, however, think this is an inappropriate video to start picking apart such miniscule details as whether or not the C should have hung back as long as he did.
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While I would love to have seen the T have a whistle on this original shove/contact, the C hanging around to help out with the pressure on the throw-in is OK and something that I do and pre-game with my partners. Especially if there have been any "shenanigans" earlier in the game. Would a double-whistle have averted the assault? I really don't think so - it just seems like the kid was primed for something and went after someone. If it's a double whistle, maybe he goes after the T instead, but what difference does that make? So I don't really have any big issue with the way the crew handled this. |
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First, I agree the Trail should have had better eyes on this play. But that's where our agreements end. When I'm the C on a made free throw I'm not releasing until the ball is inbounded. The initial shoving that occurred happened immediately after the throw-in and easily within the peripheral of the C's eyesight. And when the initial shoving occurred there were at least 5 players still in the backcourt, maybe even 6. So the C was properly covering the court on this play, IMO. Also, there is no way the C pushed the player. The player jumped back as a reaction the Technical call. Now, as far as you blaming the officials for what happened, I missed those posts. Maybe someone could quote one of those posts for me since I can't find them.
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I didn't, but you know how some people are.
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Nope, the closest you came was saying you didn't know whether things would have been different had they done things as you suggest.
As far as I'm concerned, that's not very close to it even if I disagree.
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I didn't read all of this thread, but we usualy use "C with the second-to-last defender" or "C with the last 2/3 of the pack"
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Hope everyone is doing well, happy Holidays,
The act by that young man is un-acceptable and hopefully gets what he diserves. At my last association meeting last week, It was 100% in agreement, there was nothing that fellow official had done to have that player react that way. Totally horific behavior by that player. The sad part is that I'm seeing more and more act of violence off the court as well not only from players but fans. I did a Varsity boys game last year that we had to have sheriffs escort us to our vehicles. I love officiating very much but this is getting ridiculous.. |
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