Spot OOB violation mechanic

[MelbRef]

Originally Posted by parneli

Point to spot and move your arm parallel to end line?

Right or wrong, this is what I do.

[Jurassic Referee]

Use NFHS Signal #26- designated spot violation...of course, of course....

[parneli]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Use NFHS Signal #26- designated spot violation...of course, of course....

I knew it was in there somewhere. Just had a brain f..t and couldn't remember. I am going to enjoy winning this beer bet.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by parneli

I knew it was in there somewhere. Just had a brain f..t and couldn't remember. I am going to enjoy winning this beer bet.

Let me guess - someone told you that you should use the traveling signal, and now owes you a beer?!!?

[parneli]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Let me guess - someone told you that you should use the traveling signal, and now owes you a beer?!!?

Yes, Informed the "older timer" than I that there is no traveling out of bounds. I can taste it now, but what goes around comes around. --maybe a real good micro brew--- yes, that sounds very tasty

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Use NFHS Signal #26- designated spot violation...of course, of course....

Or the IAABO mechanic on page 198

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

Or if you're from an IAABO board use the IAABO mechanic on page 198

Fixed it for ya.

"Or" ain't an option for the great majority of officials who are non-IAABO members.

Is the IAABO mechanic different than the NFHS signal?

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Fixed it for ya.

"Or" ain't an option for the great majority of officials who are non-IAABO members.

Is the IAABO mechanic different than the NFHS signal?

Pretty much the same ... I guess it depends on how you look at the cartoon man

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Is the IAABO mechanic different than the NFHS signal?

I just realized something. For thirty years I've been giving the wrong signal for a five second throwin violation. I've always given the five finger open hand signal, the same signal we use for a five second closely guarded violation. I've only used the signal above for designated spot, or throwin player onto the court, throwin violations. According to the IAABO manual were supposed to give the same signal, above, for all throw in violations.

Comments?

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I just realized something. For thirty years I've been giving the wrong signal for a five second throwin violation. I've always given the five finger open hand signal, the same signal we use for a five second closely guarded violation. I've only used the signal above for designated spot, or throwin player onto the court, throwin violations. According to the IAABO manual and, I believe, the NFHS manual, were supposed to give the same signal, above, for all throw in violations.

Comments?

Maybe use the official Fed mechanic followed by an open hand "5 count" solely for the benefit of the coach who's player committed the violation since he/she probably won't have a clue what the proper mechanic is communicating?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I just realized something. For thirty years I've been giving the wrong signal for a five second throwin violation. I've always given the five finger open hand signal, the same signal we use for a five second closely guarded violation. I've only used the signal above for designated spot, or throwin player onto the court, throwin violations. According to the IAABO manual and, I believe, the NFHS manual, were supposed to give the same signal, above, for all throw in violations.

Comments?

I just realized something. You think waaaaaaaay too much.

See NFHS signal 24.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

See NFHS signal 24.

Similar signal in the IAABO mechanics manual says "Five Seconds Closely Guarded". There is no "Five Second Violation" (like NFHS Signal 24) in the IAABO manual.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I just realized something. For thirty years I've been giving the wrong signal for a five second throwin violation. I've always given the five finger open hand signal, the same signal we use for a five second closely guarded violation. I've only used the signal above for designated spot, or throwin player onto the court, throwin violations. According to the IAABO manual were supposed to give the same signal, above, for all throw in violations.

Comments?

The first responses from the inquiries that I made to an esteemed IAABO rules interpreter that I know...who e-mailed some fellow esteemed IAABO rules interpreters....is that your IAABO signal #24 is labelled wrong and should be labelled the same as the NFHS signal #24...i.e. 5 second violation. They also said that they teach and use the 5 finger open-handed signal( signal #24) for all 5-second throw-in violations.

I'm awaiting further responses.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The first responses from the inquiries that I made to an esteemed IAABO rules interpreter that I know...who e-mailed some fellow esteemed IAABO rules interpreters....is that your IAABO signal #24 is labelled wrong and should be labelled the same as the NFHS signal #24...i.e. 5 second violation. They also said that they teach and use the 5 finger open-handed signal( signal #24) for all 5-second throw-in violations.

I'm awaiting further responses.

I figured this was simply an editorial mistake. I've never been corrected for using #24 for this violation.