Opening Tip Violation

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

6-3-8 specifically refers only to the restrictions in 6-3-7, but the 6-3-8-NOTE makes it a violation.

6-3-8 does make specific mention of the restrictions in 6-3-7. It also defines when the jump ball itself ends. 6-3-1 does not indicate when its restriction begins or ends, other than "For any jump ball". From that I infer that from the time the official is ready (the earliest moment associated with any jump ball restriction) until the jump ball ends, the restriction on the jumpers in 6-3-1 is in effect. Thus, it is a violation in its own right. However, a similar inference may be drawn, and drawn a little more easily, from the note under 6-3-8.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

6-3-8 does make specific mention of the restrictions in 6-3-7. It also defines when the jump ball itself ends. 6-3-1 does not indicate when its restriction begins or ends, other than "For any jump ball". From that I infer that from the time the official is ready (the earliest moment associated with any jump ball restriction) until the jump ball ends, the restriction on the jumpers in 6-3-1 is in effect. Thus, it is a violation in its own right. However, a similar inference may be drawn, and drawn a little more easily, from the note under 6-3-8.

So if a jumper comes down with his foot over the line before the ball touches a non-jumper, you call a violation?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So if a jumper comes down with his foot over the line before the ball touches a non-jumper, you call a violation?

Agitator!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So if a jumper comes down with his foot over the line before the ball touches a non-jumper, you call a violation?

I think the answer to this is to go with the intent of the rule. The intent is obviously not to punish a jumper for where he lands when he makes a legitimate attempt to tap the toss.

OTOH, based on the wording of the note on 6-3-8, it seems their intent is also not to allow one jumper to simply walk to the other side during the toss.

In a way, it seems similar to the intent of the relatively new wording on 9-1-3g (one foot near the FT lane line).