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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 09:13am
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Not that I advocate ever getting the call wrong, but much of the time you're more believable if you come out with a good, strong wrong call than a weak, unconvincing right call.
I worked a college came last night, and had a play "blow up" on me. Long story short, I was C in transition when the ball was deflected several times and went out of bounds. I was too close to the play, but my judgment was red ball. Well, the crowd behind me went nuts. I looked across the court to my Trail, hoping that he had a look and would come rescue me, but he didn't.

In the locker room after the half, I asked my partners about it and the Trail said it was definitely red. Other partner (VERY well-established official) said that's one where -- especially since I wasn't 100% on it -- it could have used a little "sell" and maybe diffused the reaction.
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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 09:44am
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I worked a college came last night, and had a play "blow up" on me. Long story short, I was C in transition when the ball was deflected several times and went out of bounds. I was too close to the play, but my judgment was red ball. Well, the crowd behind me went nuts. I looked across the court to my Trail, hoping that he had a look and would come rescue me, but he didn't.

In the locker room after the half, I asked my partners about it and the Trail said it was definitely red. Other partner (VERY well-established official) said that's one where -- especially since I wasn't 100% on it -- it could have used a little "sell" and maybe diffused the reaction.
So you got the call right? And you mention nothing about the other coach reacting to your call. So I don't see the need to have to have sold anything.
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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 12:25pm
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So you got the call right? And you mention nothing about the other coach reacting to your call. So I don't see the need to have to have sold anything.
For the exact reason that BITS mentioned. A borderline call can seem like a good call with a little sell behind it.
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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 02:39pm
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For the exact reason that BITS mentioned. A borderline call can seem like a good call with a little sell behind it.
I was assuming you had a strong whistle and mechanic on the play.
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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 06:22pm
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I was assuming you had a strong whistle and mechanic on the play.
I had my "normal" whistle and mechanic, which is pretty textbook; without much flair to it.
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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 07:28pm
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I had my "normal" whistle and mechanic, which is pretty textbook; without much flair to it.
Showing quiet confidence can be the best "sell" of all.
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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 10:06pm
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I had my "normal" whistle and mechanic, which is pretty textbook; without much flair to it.
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Showing quiet confidence can be the best "sell" of all.
Agreed. Treating the call as routine can sometimes be just as effective as selling it.

Me personally, I usually 'sell' a call when I whistle something out of my primary, usually to indicate to everyone that it was something I had to go get.
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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 11:06am
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I worked a college came last night, and had a play "blow up" on me. Long story short, I was C in transition when the ball was deflected several times and went out of bounds. I was too close to the play, but my judgment was red ball. Well, the crowd behind me went nuts. I looked across the court to my Trail, hoping that he had a look and would come rescue me, but he didn't.

In the locker room after the half, I asked my partners about it and the Trail said it was definitely red. Other partner (VERY well-established official) said that's one where -- especially since I wasn't 100% on it -- it could have used a little "sell" and maybe diffused the reaction.
...is if I'm Trail I'm comin' in with loud verbal support at a minimum. "Great call!"
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Old Thu Dec 09, 2010, 06:08pm
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...is if I'm Trail I'm comin' in with loud verbal support at a minimum. "Great call!"

I don't like this advice. I don't think it is necessary.

Many new officials do not work on these things away from the court:

1. Signals - we can all perfect our signals in front of a mirror. Game action will cause them to likely fall below perfection, but they will still be good from practice.
2. Rule knowledge and application
3. Uniform
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Old Thu Dec 09, 2010, 06:43pm
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Many new officials do not work on these things away from the court:

1. Signals - we can all perfect our signals in front of a mirror. Game action will cause them to likely fall below perfection, but they will still be good from practice.
2. Rule knowledge and application
3. Uniform
Good points...
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