Refs and coach/AD

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yes. And if I'm evaluating, I'll take the guy that gets the call right over the guy that looked great but screwed up the call.

But that's just me.....

The optimum is both, of course. Get the call right while using the correct mechanics.

And, there are enough "good" officials to take the ones that put in the effort to look and act professional.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And, there are enough "good" officials to take the ones that put in the effort to look and act professional.

Yup, the ones that make the effort should be ranked higher than the ones who might also be equal in call-making ability but don't have the "whole package".

[Texas Aggie]

Coaches/ADs are not specifically concerned at all about mechanics, but if you look sharp, you and your calls will be taken more seriously -- everything else being equal.

Not really anything to do with mechanics, but with perspective: My first few years, I had a LOT of trouble with women coaches -- jr. high to college. Not all of them, but most, for some reason. In the mid-90s, I was out for a couple of years for injury and slowly got back into things over the next several years. Instead of being a late college student or recent college grad, I was now as old or in some cases older than the coaches and handling women coaches is one of my strengths. I can not recall a T I've given a woman head coach in the last 5 or 6 years. Same official, different outcome.

[biggravy]

Only thing I would add is to remember they're not always going to agree with your calls anyway. That's why they are called howler monkeys. I would at least prefer my mechanics have me in the right spot, and my signals are crisp so at least maybe there is a little doubt in their mind that maybe they ARE crazy and I do know what I am doing

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yup, the ones that make the effort should be ranked higher than the ones who might also be equal in call-making ability but don't have the "whole package".

If you could break it down, JR, what are the criteria of the "whole package?"

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

"whole package?"

No image please.

[Back In The Saddle]

Not that I advocate ever getting the call wrong, but much of the time you're more believable if you come out with a good, strong wrong call than a weak, unconvincing right call. Good mechanics can buy you some credibility until you have time to establish a reputation as being a good official. Bad mechanics can doom you before you even get started.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Not that I advocate ever getting the call wrong, but much of the time you're more believable if you come out with a good, strong wrong call than a weak, unconvincing right call.

I worked a college came last night, and had a play "blow up" on me. Long story short, I was C in transition when the ball was deflected several times and went out of bounds. I was too close to the play, but my judgment was red ball. Well, the crowd behind me went nuts. I looked across the court to my Trail, hoping that he had a look and would come rescue me, but he didn't.

In the locker room after the half, I asked my partners about it and the Trail said it was definitely red. Other partner (VERY well-established official) said that's one where -- especially since I wasn't 100% on it -- it could have used a little "sell" and maybe diffused the reaction.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I worked a college came last night, and had a play "blow up" on me. Long story short, I was C in transition when the ball was deflected several times and went out of bounds. I was too close to the play, but my judgment was red ball. Well, the crowd behind me went nuts. I looked across the court to my Trail, hoping that he had a look and would come rescue me, but he didn't.

In the locker room after the half, I asked my partners about it and the Trail said it was definitely red. Other partner (VERY well-established official) said that's one where -- especially since I wasn't 100% on it -- it could have used a little "sell" and maybe diffused the reaction.

So you got the call right? And you mention nothing about the other coach reacting to your call. So I don't see the need to have to have sold anything.

[referee99]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I worked a college came last night, and had a play "blow up" on me. Long story short, I was C in transition when the ball was deflected several times and went out of bounds. I was too close to the play, but my judgment was red ball. Well, the crowd behind me went nuts. I looked across the court to my Trail, hoping that he had a look and would come rescue me, but he didn't.

In the locker room after the half, I asked my partners about it and the Trail said it was definitely red. Other partner (VERY well-established official) said that's one where -- especially since I wasn't 100% on it -- it could have used a little "sell" and maybe diffused the reaction.

...is if I'm Trail I'm comin' in with loud verbal support at a minimum. "Great call!"

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

You're more believable if you come out with a good, strong wrong call than a weak, unconvincing right call.

Agree. We used to have a great interpreter who used to always say, "If you're going to make a bad call, make it a really strong, bad call".

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree. We used to have a great interpreter who used to always say, "If you're going to make a bad call, make it a really strong, bad call".

"Often wrong. Never indecisive."

[refnrev]

The whistle and your mechanics are your voice on the court. Speak wisely!