Big 10 -- New supervisor and new evaluation process

[GoodwillRef]

I love it when they put people with no officiating background in charge of officials.

Bo Ryan likes it that the new supervisor was a coach...really no crap.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I love it when they put people with no officiating background in charge of officials.

Bo Ryan likes it that the new supervisor was a coach...really no crap.

Wow, just read that. Back in my 2nd year of officiating I got to tag along and work an intra-squad scrimmage at W&M when was the HC. I'll say this, he knew the rules and he treated our crew very well. He let it be known that he was very appreciative of our profession.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Wow, just read that. Back in my 2nd year of officiating I got to tag along and work an intra-squad scrimmage at W&M when was the HC. I'll say this, he knew the rules and he treated our crew very well. He let it be known that he was very appreciative of our profession.

A coach knowing the rules isn't the same as being in the fire as a Division 1 official.

[Rich]

I think it's only a matter of time before basketball is run like NCAA softball, where they openly admit that the coaches run the sport.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I think it's only a matter of time before basketball is run like NCAA softball, where they openly admit that the coaches run the sport.

What, like 20 years ago?

[Jurassic Referee]

I'll be more impressed if he also asks for accountability from the coaches and tries to get them to cut their whining back a bit too. Some of 'em are absolutely ridiculous...and some of 'em are getting away with murder also when it comes to yapping at the the officials.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I'll be more impressed if he also asks for accountability from the coaches and tries to get them to cut their whining back a bit too. Some of 'em are absolutely ridiculous...and some of 'em are getting away with murder also when it comes to yapping at the the officials.

I don't work NCAA, so I don't have to deal with those coaches.

Unfortunately, the kids and coaches that I deal with (and millions like them) watch and learn from those coaches. To my mind, THAT's the reason NCAA needs to deal with the coaches.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by richmsn

i think it's only a matter of time before basketball is run like ncaa softball, where they openly admit that the coaches run the sport.

+1

[zm1283]

I agree with the comment about NBA coaches being better behaved than NCAA coaches. I've watched a decent amount of NCAA games this year, and those guys get away with anything they want. Gregg Marshall at Wichita State would have multiple T's if he was an NBA coach, but the NCAA guys usually don't do much about his antics on the sideline.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I agree with the comment about NBA coaches being better behaved than NCAA coaches. I've watched a decent amount of NCAA games this year, and those guys get away with anything they want. Gregg Marshall at Wichita State would have multiple T's if he was an NBA coach, but the NCAA guys usually don't do much about his antics on the sideline.

Utah Jazz coach, Jerry Sloan can't ask for a drink of water without dropping an F-bomb. The officials who work his games know that's the way he talks, and they have to work past it to get his intent whenever he says something. It's amazing what he gets away with.
I know some unsuspecting fans who took their kids to a game, in seats behind the bench, and gave up those seats because of his verbiage.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

A coach knowing the rules isn't the same as being in the fire as a Division 1 official.

Well, I never said it was. And that was 8 years ago. Who knows what he has been doing behind the scenes to get prepared for this type of job. And we all know that a successful "coach" isn't always one who played the game before at the highest level. If Boyages is surrounding himself with former D1 officials who have been in the fire he can do a good job.

John Guthrie and Fred Barakat came from the coaching ranks if I'm not mistaken.

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, I never said it was. And that was 8 years ago. Who knows what he has been doing behind the scenes to get prepared for this type of job. And we all know that a successful "coach" isn't always one who played the game before at the highest level. If Boyages is surrounding himself with former D1 officials who have been in the fire he can do a good job.

John Guthrie and Fred Barakat came from the coaching ranks if I'm not mistaken.

I think that this will push that league more in the direction of a "game management" league where the officials are talking all night to the coaches.

Fred was really big about talking to coaches. the irony to me is that I think that John Adams is trying to get away from us talking all the time to coaches.

Would like to hear how the more esteemed member (Rut) of our fraternity feels...........

[Jesse James]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

I think that this will push that league more in the direction of a "game management" league where the officials are talking all night to the coaches.

Fred was really big about talking to coaches. the irony to me is that I think that John Adams is trying to get away from us talking all the time to coaches.

Would like to hear how the more esteemed member (Rut) of our fraternity feels...........

Why would the push be in a different direction than the past 20 years? The guy Boyages is replacing was a former Big 10 coach, with no officiating resume either.