Pants: Sansabelt vs. Smitty

[just another ref]

Okay, one more question, then I'm done. I went back to the same tournament tonight. Different 3 man crew. One definitely had no belt. One definitely had a belt. The other, I actually still don't know. All 3 were, by my standards at least impeccably dressed. The guy with the belt and the guy that I never could tell about both had their shirts tucked loosely enough that they had little slack hanging down which obscured the belt line the great majority of the time.
Perhaps this was done by design for this purpose, but in any case it was neat, even, and in no way detrimental to the overall appearance. The question is, to those who draw such lines, if the belt is still an unforgivable burden, even when it is this close to invisible.

[zm1283]

FWIW I don't think I've seen anyone in my area with a belt on in four years. I have only seen two or three guys with flat front pants. 99.9 percent of the guys/ladies around here wear pleated, beltless pants.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The question is, to those who draw such lines, if the belt is still an unforgivable burden, even when it is this close to invisible.

I do not recall that anyone said this was a deal breaker or unforgivable. I think most of of said that it tells us something about that official. That is it and that is all. Just like the guy that is overweight and belly is hanging over their pants. It may not tell the entire story, but people will assume they cannot get up and down the floor. And the first time they do not get in position (which is sometimes a perception not a reality) someone seems to comment about that official's weight.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Okay, one more question, then I'm done.

I hope so. You didn't put a question in your post, so go ahead and ask it. Maybe there was a typo in your last statement.

It seems as though your area doesn't have a de-facto standard on belts. In that case, those with and without belts will generally be viewed the same.

That's not true in many other areas.

It's kind of like the switch from shirts with collars to shirts without. No one officiated better just because they boutght a shirt without a collar. But, after a couple of years, if you saw one official with a collar and one without, your first impression would be that the official without the collar just didn't care about his/her officiating.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

But, after a couple of years, if you saw one official with a collar and one without, your first impression would be that the official without the collar just didn't care about his/her officiating.

...I'm sure you meant WITH...


btw...watched some rookies last night...two belts one beltless...one guy had NO Socks and too little of a shirt, was always untucked...whew!

[VaTerp]

Just ordered a new pair of Sansabelts from Between the Lines and the inside pockets are white and the buttons are brown/cream colored.

I'm at work now but I'm pretty sure my other Sansabelts and Smitty's have black inside pockets and black buttons. Am I crazy?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Just ordered a new pair of Sansabelts from Between the Lines and the inside pockets are white and the buttons are brown/cream colored.

I'm at work now but I'm pretty sure my other Sansabelts and Smitty's have black inside pockets and black buttons. Am I crazy?

My new Smitty pants have white pockets, too, albeit with a black opening so that it's not possible (unless they fit very poorly) to see the white pocket.

I'm guessing those are the proper pants, although I can't understand how hard it would be to use black everywhere.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Just ordered a new pair of Sansabelts from Between the Lines and the inside pockets are white and the buttons are brown/cream colored.

I'm at work now but I'm pretty sure my other Sansabelts and Smitty's have black inside pockets and black buttons. Am I crazy?

I do not know of a single pair of pants that I have that do not have white pockets or a brown/cream color button.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not know of a single pair of pants that I have that do not have white pockets or a brown/cream color button.

Peace

Yup. Just looked at my Smitty pants and the button is definitely not black. Something one just doesn't notice, I guess, until one notices it.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Yup. Just looked at my Smitty pants and the button is definitely not black. Something one just doesn't notice, I guess, until one notices it.

Just don't do a button check in pre-game tonight.