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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 12:24pm
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Yeah? Right? In twenty years I'll be so old that I'll be wearing my belt up around my nipples.
That will work out, if your nipples are down around your knees.

This does mean one thing, though -- you should stay with the latest trends for wherever you are. If you're the only one wearing a belt or flat front pants or using a pea whistle, why be that guy?
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 12:33pm
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Bought my first pair of Smitty's earlier this season. Honestly, I don't see a big difference with Sansabelt in terms of quality or fit, so I'll probably stick with Smitty's at the lower price. The Smitty's seem to run a little smaller in the waist so I didn't have to have them taken in this pair (saved $$$ there too).

I'll look at them at the end of the season to see if they held up as well after the repeated laundering.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 12:34pm
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Are there still officials who use a pea whistle?
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 12:35pm
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Using a pea whistle.
Hey. Let's not encourage Mark Padgett. Let's have no posts about the first rule of officiating.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 12:37pm
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Are there still officials who use a pea whistle?
There's one guy I've worked with in the past who (I think) uses a pea whistle and wears a belt mainly to annoy other officials.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 12:39pm
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There's one guy I've worked with in the past who (I think) uses a pea whistle and wears a belt mainly to annoy other officials.
Okay, this makes me laugh.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 12:43pm
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Yeah? Right? In twenty years I'll be so old that I'll be wearing my belt up around my nipples.
Either that, or you'll have Dunlap syndrome. That's where your stomach dun lap over your pants. I suffer from that now.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 12:51pm
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Either that, or you'll have Dunlap syndrome. That's where your stomach dun lap over your pants. I suffer from that now.
I had somebody tell me once that he didn't have "dunlap disease", cuz he wasn't done lapping over his belt.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 01:36pm
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Like all matters of style, this wheel continues to turn. Right now, to advance and to look proper you wear pleats and no belt. If you stay in it more than 20 years, you'll see it change. :shrug:
So I shouldn't get rid of my Byron collared shirts?
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There's one guy I've worked with in the past who (I think) uses a pea whistle and wears a belt mainly to annoy other officials.
We have one of those in our association. Very good official, funny with a quick dry wit. Loves if someone asks him about the whistle or the belt, they become the butt of his wit the rest of the evening.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 02:06pm
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The pealess whistle literally speaks for itself. It's a matter of superior tone and volume. (It's easier to hear) If there is no specific dress code, but we should
"wear beltless pants if we wish to advance," I don't get that.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 02:19pm
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The pealess whistle literally speaks for itself. It's a matter of superior tone and volume. (It's easier to hear) If there is no specific dress code, but we should
"wear beltless pants if we wish to advance," I don't get that.
Because it looks more professional. You had to go out and buy a pair of pants that fit and you can run in. Wearing a belt suggests you just went around to your local Wal-Mart and picked up a pair of pants. The same as it looks silly as a football and baseball umpire to not buy at hat that fits and use and adjustable hat. It is about perception and when you are the only person doing that, this questions what other things you might have cut corners on. People are looking for "why not" not "why."

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So I shouldn't get rid of my Byron collared shirts?
No. Return them.
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Because it looks more professional. You had to go out and buy a pair of pants that fit and you can run in. Wearing a belt suggests you just went around to your local Wal-Mart and picked up a pair of pants. The same as it looks silly as a football and baseball umpire to not buy at hat that fits and use and adjustable hat. It is about perception and when you are the only person doing that, this questions what other things you might have cut corners on. People are looking for "why not" not "why."

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That has nothing to do with it. Belted pants are not less professional. Byron collar shirts are not less professional. Shirts with side panels are not less professional. These are just fashion issues, in a few years everything will have changed again.
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Old Thu Dec 23, 2010, 02:55pm
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That has nothing to do with it. Belted pants are not less professional. Byron collar shirts are not less professional. Shirts with side panels are not less professional. These are just fashion issues, in a few years everything will have changed again.
He didn't say it was more professional. He said it looks more professional, and he's right. Like it or not, it looks more professional to do as the majority does. That's true for the kind of pants you wear, whether you get patent leather, what kind of lanyard you use, whether you have side panels, which patches you wear, whether you wear glasses on the court, etc.

Jeff's right, perception matters.
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