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Old Mon Nov 15, 2010, 01:52pm
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Does anybody still see the fan-shaped backboards any more outside of church/rrec league? I can't think of a game in 20 years that I've seen one.

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Does anybody outside of church/rec leagues still have fan-shaped backboards? I can't think of seeing any in the past 20 years, at least.
Does anyone outside of centkyref still make virtually identical consecutive posts? I can't think of seeing any in the past 20 years, at least.

Also - what's the difference between a rrec league and a rec league?
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Also - what's the difference between a rrec league and a rec league?
The former is to be pronounced with a slight growl.

Unless you're from Spain, in which case you're to add a trill to the r sound.
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The former is to be pronounced with a slight growl.

Unless you're from Spain, in which case you're to add a trill to the r sound.
In either case, the "w" is silent.
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In either case, the "w" is silent.
So is the "k."

Seemingly invisible, too.
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In a high school tournament here a few years ago, a game-winning shot was described as being "over the backboard" in the local newspaper. I have to wonder if the writer -- and most readers -- know such a thing cannot legally exist, and if it cannot exist, maybe it didn't go over the backboard. If it did, there would have been a lot of noise about that shot. It was a rectangular backboard.

It was very close, though. It made me wonder if the entire ball, any part of the ball, or somewhere in between, has to pass over the backboard to be a violation. I never thought to ask until now.

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In a high school tournament here a few years ago, a game-winning shot was described as being "over the backboard" in the local newspaper.
Was it at a really old HS with a fan backboard? Not making fun, just asking straight. Or was it a rectangular one and the story was being critical of the call?
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Was it at a really old HS with a fan backboard? Not making fun, just asking straight. Or was it a rectangular one and the story was being critical of the call?
Good catch, Mark. I failed to mentioned it was rectangular, and have edited my post accordingly.

I don't think there was anything implied by the story. The writer may not have known the rule, and wrote it as an improbable shot. He may have seen it differently than the officals. Or, the officials may have not been convinced it went over at all.
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This rule is interpreted differently by different people. Some say the entire ball has to pass over the backboard, others say any piece of the ball qualifies.
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This rule is interpreted differently by different people. Some say the entire ball has to pass over the backboard, others say any piece of the ball qualifies.
NCAA specifies "The ball shall be out of bounds when any part of the ball passes over the backboard from any direction." As you imply, the NFHS does not specify.

I have only seen this happen a handful of times, but my observation is that quite often it can be very difficult to tell for certain whether the ball actually passes over the backboard. It just depends on the angles involved, both the angle of the ball and the angle it is observed from by the official.
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This rule is interpreted differently by different people. Some say the entire ball has to pass over the backboard, others say any piece of the ball qualifies.
What does IAABO say? They issued an informational rules e-mail today mentioning that exact play but didn't say whether the violation was all-ball or part-ball. And yes, I've already asked Whats-His-Name his thoughts on it as an IABBO interpreter.

Imo the rule says its a violation if the ball passes over a rectangular backboard. It doesn't say a part-ball or 51% of a ball. Iow it has to be the whole ball.
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