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Old Tue Oct 26, 2010, 04:23pm
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Our clinic included that teams are to stay on their half of the court during warm-ups regardless that the other team is not present.
So did ours, but no penalty was described if they did. Figures.
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Old Tue Oct 26, 2010, 04:28pm
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Is it a direct on the head coach?
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Old Tue Oct 26, 2010, 04:33pm
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I think the state wants it reported so they can deal with it. Must really becoming a turf problem of some sort.
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Old Tue Oct 26, 2010, 04:50pm
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Here in CA we were told that teams are to warm-up only on their side of the court, no matter if the other team is on the floor or not.

As for the pre-game lap around the court, we were instructed that this is not allowed at any time. The rationale we were given is that this is a form of intimidation and should be penalized as an unsporting act with a technical foul. I believe we were instructed that it is charged directly to the head coach, but I will double check this.
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Old Tue Oct 26, 2010, 04:56pm
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They first had this as a POE back in 2002-03 when the NFHS rulesmakers identified it as becoming a problem. From that POE, the FED's instructions to us was that: "Officials should be prepared to be assess a technical foul to a team member/team demonstrating these unsporting acts. The specific inappropriate actions of a few team members may be individually penalized or the entire team may be assessed one technical foul if they collectively engage in any inappropriate behavior(s). Since all team members are considered bench personnel before the game and during intermissions, the head coach would also be charged indirectly with the technical foul."

Having cited that, I'd still recommending contacting your state office for direction.
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Old Tue Oct 26, 2010, 05:07pm
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My instinct would to instruct the HC to stop, and issue a direct T to the HC if he doesn't comply; but that requires the HC to be around.
I would just add to the chorus of "contact your state." They may want you to go directly to the T, or they may want you to give the coach a chance to remember the new policy.
I'm surprised this is an issue; we ran the full court 3 on 2 on 1 drill when the other team went to the locker room; and it was never an issue.
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Old Tue Oct 26, 2010, 09:55pm
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So here's a question for everyone.

My alma mater has been doing the full court lap for warmups since before I attended there, what can be done to cease this "unsporting" activity since it is actually illegal to do?
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Old Tue Oct 26, 2010, 10:01pm
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So here's a question for everyone.

My alma mater has been doing the full court lap for warmups since before I attended there, what can be done to cease this "unsporting" activity since it is actually illegal to do?
If you're close enough to the coach to be able to talk to him, you can mention it. If the coach isn't open to your comments, don't bother. It seems like you're on good terms with the AD, so you could always ask him, in casual conversation, what the team has implemented to replace the full court warmup lap.

On game night? Do nothing, say nothing, to anyone. Don't stop the team from doing it; you're an impartial judge. Don't "remind" the officials to enforce the rule; you aren't really privy to the instructions they've been given on how to enforce it.
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Old Wed Oct 27, 2010, 07:59pm
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So here's a question for everyone.

My alma mater has been doing the full court lap for warmups since before I attended there, what can be done to cease this "unsporting" activity since it is actually illegal to do?
Our state wants it banged since this is not new. The full court lap, huddling in the center circle, full court use for warmups, etc. They want a "T" issued to the head coach and he loses the coaching box. Doesn't matter whether he/she is there or not when it happens.
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So did ours, but no penalty was described if they did. Figures.
Darn, now I have to stay awake for pregame warm-ups just in case.
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Darn, now I have to stay awake for pregame warm-ups just in case.
I have little eye stickers I put on over my eyelids, so I can sleep standing up with nobody knowing. Does any other state require officials to take the court at TWENTY minutes?
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Does any other state require officials to take the court at TWENTY minutes?
Yes.
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Does any other state require officials to take the court at TWENTY minutes?
Generally around here, the floor officials make their presence known after the teams have already taken the court, with between 15-18 minutes left of pregame.
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Generally around here, the floor officials make their presence known after the teams have already taken the court, with between 15-18 minutes left of pregame.
"Make their presence known?" Do you mean simply walk out onto the court? Or is it like Texas, where the officials blow their whistle to let the pampered athletes know it's time to stop breaking the rules?
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"Make their presence known?" Do you mean simply walk out onto the court? Or is it like Texas, where the officials blow their whistle to let the pampered athletes know it's time to stop breaking the rules?
Sorry, should of clarified...I was meaning they are not present when the teams first come out for warmups. They come out while the teams are in the middle of their warmups.
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