Pre-Game Team Entrance Lap: T?

[Kingsman1288]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

So who gets the direct?

From what I was told, no one does. The penalty is simply an indirect to the head coach.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Kingsman1288

From what I was told, no one does. The penalty is simply an indirect to the head coach.

In NFHS rules, you CAN'T have only an indirect to the head coach. In NFHS, the indirect is only given when a direct technical foul is assessed to a member of bench personnel.

[Kingsman1288]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In NFHS rules, you CAN'T have only an indirect to the head coach. In NFHS, the indirect is only given when a direct technical foul is assessed to a member of bench personnel.

Duhhh...major brain fart on my part. Good thing I had it now and not during the season

Maybe it was a direct to the coach? I'm getting conflicting answers so I'm just going to email the state office.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Kingsman1288

Duhhh...major brain fart on my part. Good thing I had it now and not during the season

Maybe it was a direct to the coach? I'm getting conflicting answers so I'm just going to email the state office.

There is a ruling in the Case Book that says a HC can receive an indirect when the TEAM is charged with a technical foul. Normally, a TEAM technical foul does not count towards the HC in any way, but there are a few instances where it is appropriate for the indirect to be assessed.

This would seem like one of those cases.

BTW POE #2 in this year's book now makes it a national policy whereas the previous policy of the NFHS was to leave this area up to the determination of each individual state association. That's a big deal, if your state didn't have any previous regulations on these activities. Such is the case with Nevada.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

BTW POE #2 in this year's book now makes it a national policy whereas the previous policy of the NFHS was to leave this area up to the determination of each individual state association. That's a big deal, if your state didn't have any previous regulations on these activities. Such is the case with Nevada.

This is the first I've seen this, Nevada. You're right, it's a big deal. CO hasn't had a policy that I've been aware of. For those states, it is new, and I wonder if the state offices are going to direct a softer approach the first year.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In NFHS rules, you CAN'T have only an indirect to the head coach. In NFHS, the indirect is only given when a direct technical foul is assessed to a member of bench personnel.

Since all players are bench personnel during warm-ups, couldn't a bench technical be called in this case? The Bench T would then be an indirect on the head coach.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Since all players are bench personnel during warm-ups, couldn't a bench technical be called in this case? The Bench T would then be an indirect on the head coach.

Well, lacking direct instructions from your local governing body, we could also follow the directions from the NFHS POE that I cited 3 days ago in post #8 of this thread. It's still valid afaik.

From POE #3 in the 2002-03 rulebook re: pre-game situations:
"The specific inappropriate actions of a few team members may be individually penalized or the entire team may be assessed one technical foul, if they collectively engage in any inappropriate behavior(s). Since all team members are considered bench personnel before the game or during the game, the head coach would also be charged indirectly with the technical foul(10-4-1d; 2-8-1)."
Note that the rules cited to back that POE haven't changed to date. That's good enough for me. I've got something in writing to cover my azz if I follow that POE, not an "opinion".