Closely Guarded Post Player

[Fritz]

I agree that the strict language of the rule would indicate that the CG count should apply, but like the earlier comments, I have never seen anyone give a visible count in that instance. And though it isn't like the post player holds the ball or dribbles that long without doing something, it does happen. With no count begin given during this, it would be interesting to suddenly come up calling the violation and have to explain why you weren't signalling.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Fritz

I agree that the strict language of the rule would indicate that the CG count should apply, but like the earlier comments, I have never seen anyone give a visible count in that instance. And though it isn't like the post player holds the ball or dribbles that long without doing something, it does happen. With no count begin given during this, it would be interesting to suddenly come up calling the violation and have to explain why you weren't signalling.

This reasoning is much different than your OP.

[ODJ]

I would think the C would have a count, but since most often this post-up is in the lane, 3 secs. come before 5.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by ODJ

I would think the C would have a count, but since most often this post-up is in the lane, 3 secs. come before 5.

So we've got the L looking for a foul, the C looking for a 5 second count and the T looking for traveling...all on the same post up? Yikes!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

So we've got the L looking for a foul, the C looking for a 5 second count and the T looking for traveling...all on the same post up? Yikes!

Can you imagine the C coming across the court for a 5 second call on a post player standing three feet from the L? Talk about fireworks.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Can you imagine the C coming across the court for a 5 second call on a post player standing three feet from the L? Talk about fireworks.

Exactly. I know it's been said before, but if all three officials are on-ball, who is watching the other 8? The very notion of the C or T having the count on a post up in front of the lead boggles my (admittedly very tiny) mind.

[Fritz]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

This reasoning is much different than your OP.

yeah, I didn't explain myself very well. I agree with what the rule language says but since I have never seen it called by any of the veteran officials I've worked with or watched, I figured there must be a reason. When I have asked, they always responded that the interpretation was it only applied to face-to-face guarding (hence the head/shoulders comment).

Enjoying all the subsequent comments. But could see an interesting scenario crop up - - - L starts giving the 5-second visible count while the post player is actually in the lane trying to decide what to do (don't the mechanics say we supposed to start our visible count immediately?) and then coaches/fans/players think we are now doing a visible 3-second count.............