Closely Guarded Post Player
need some help in a debate I am having with a regular partner of mine. Ball goes into a post player who has his back to the basket and is dribbling trying to decide what move to make and how the defender is reacting. Does the closely guarded count apply?
I say no because the rule book talks about the count ending once the dribbler gets his head/shoulders past the defender - implying that closely guarded occurs when opponents are facing each other. And I have never seen a visible count done in this situation by anyone I have watched or worked with. My "debater" says that isn't true as the book never says they have to face each other. So, experts, what is the correct application? |
Your "debater" has the rule right.
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Imagine the same positioning, only 19 feet from the basket. Do you have a count?
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Perhaps part of the confusion lies with the fact that, according to Fed. mechanics, the L does not show a visible count in these situations, even though the players are entirely within the L's area of coverage. And, since no one is counting, there would never be a 5-second call made by the L.
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I've been wrong before, but the only count by anyone that isn't visible is the 3 second count
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I happen to disagree with the mechanic. I have asked these officials, many times, why it is necessary to have 2 sets of eyes on-ball (L, and the C or T with the count), but no one can tell me why it's acceptable in this instance. |
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Again, I don't agree with that philosophy, but when in Rome... |
I agree that the strict language of the rule would indicate that the CG count should apply, but like the earlier comments, I have never seen anyone give a visible count in that instance. And though it isn't like the post player holds the ball or dribbles that long without doing something, it does happen. With no count begin given during this, it would be interesting to suddenly come up calling the violation and have to explain why you weren't signalling.
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I would think the C would have a count, but since most often this post-up is in the lane, 3 secs. come before 5.
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